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1 hour ago, tigerbomb13 said:

Saw this in a Facebook group I'm in. Exhibit 4378282 why we are so bad at this. 

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South Dakota's probably big enough.

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The first week we could dine out this last time we went to Hopcat downtown.  My son loves it there.  We sat at a high top across from a table of 5-6 people.  They looked like they'd been there awhile..... they were having fun.  Being a little loud, laughing, etc. and I started to get antsy.   They were doing the things that spread the virus.  Then I noticed they all had scrubs on and so I assumed they had their shots.  The DMC is right down the road.

 

 

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Yesterday California had something like 3500 new cases. 6 weeks ago it was over 50k. 

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22 minutes ago, Yoda said:

Yesterday California had something like 3500 new cases. 6 weeks ago it was over 50k. 

Here we had about 6,500 today, down from a similar number towards the start of January. I don't know if we're testing more or not. It's probably a similar rate per 100k now anyway.

All schools in England back from Monday. We'll see what happens in the three weeks before Easter.

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34 minutes ago, Yoda said:

Yesterday California had something like 3500 new cases. 6 weeks ago it was over 50k. 

This is why the CDC experts are scared. During the Spanish Flu, cases dropped, big time. Everyone quit taking the precautions that made them drop in the 1st place. 

"Reported cases of Spanish flu dropped off over the summer of 1918, and there was hope at the beginning of August that the virus had run its course. In retrospect, it was only the calm before the storm."

I've read 675,000 Americans died from the Spanish Flu. We're almost at the number now with the Corona Virus. Of course, there's a much greater population now so we actually have a much smaller percentage of the population who passed away from it. And we have vaccines now too. But I say, don't let your guard down now, we've all been through too much to let it be in vain.

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Michigan new re-opening changes:

 

  • Restaurants and bars may have 50% indoor dining capacity, up to 100 people. Tables must still be six feet apart, with a max of six people at a table. A curfew on indoor dining is still in effect, but this order bumps it back from 10 p.m. to 11 p.m. 
  • Retail shops are allowed to operate at 50% indoor capacity, up from 30%. 
  • Indoor private residential gatherings are capped at 15 people from three separate households. Outdoor residential gatherings are allowed to have up to 50 people. 
  • Indoor gatherings involving people from different households are allowed to have up to 25 people. This likely means public events, like city council meetings, and small public gatherings can legally resume in-person. 
  • Outdoor gatherings can resume with up to 300 people. 
  • Venues like movie theaters, bowling alleys and other entertainment purveyors may also increase indoor capacity to 50%, up to 300 people.
  • Athletic stadiums and arenas that seat 10,000 people or fewer may allow up to 375 attendees. If the seating capacity is above 10,000, they can have 750 people. 
  • Casinos are allowed to function at 30% indoor capacity. 
  • Gyms are allowed to operate at 30% capacity, but workout machines must remain at least six feet apart

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Just now, Sports_Freak said:

This is why the CDC experts are scared. During the Spanish Flu, cases dropped, big time. Everyone quit taking the precautions that made them drip in the 1st place. 

"Reported cases of Spanish flu dropped off over the summer of 1918, and there was hope at the beginning of August that the virus had run its course. In retrospect, it was only the calm before the storm."

I've read 675,000 Americans died from the Spanish Flu. We're almost at the number now with the Corona Virus. Of course, there's a much greater population now so we actually have a much smaller percentage of the population who passed away from it. And we have vaccines now too. But I say, don't let your guard down now, we've all been through too much to let it be in vain.

I'd be more concerned if people weren't getting vaccinated. Don't take that to mean that I'm not concerned at all, but I don't think we'll see anything like our last spike again. 

65 and older account for 3/4 of the hospitalizations in the US and half of the deaths. Here in LB, 60% of them are vaccinated. That's a big deal, and that will only increase. 

I think the worst is over, assuming one of the new strains renders the vaccine useless, which is possible. 

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9 minutes ago, Yoda said:

I'd be more concerned if people weren't getting vaccinated. Don't take that to mean that I'm not concerned at all, but I don't think we'll see anything like our last spike again. 

65 and older account for 3/4 of the hospitalizations in the US and half of the deaths. Here in LB, 60% of them are vaccinated. That's a big deal, and that will only increase. 

I think the worst is over, assuming one of the new strains renders the vaccine useless, which is possible. 

Yup. The vaccinations will end this unless a long shot variant gets loose, and even if one does, the RNA vaccines can be reformulated in less than weeks. The other big difference with the Spanish flu is that it killed everyone. With this virus we only have to vaccinate a relatively small, identifiable proportion of the total population to bring the death rate to very low levels (i.e. the old, diabetic and overweight), so even if infection rates slip back up in the general public in next couple of months, most of the seriously vulnerable will already have been protected.

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50m vaccines has got to be making a dent in the deaths at a minimum.  We should be good once we get to 300m vaccines distributed.  The crazy outlier vaxxers can just die and we'll be rid of them in their ignorance.  No chance of them breeding and diminishing the genetic stock with their badly made brains.

[this was the alt-universe ROMAD1 of the Mirror Mirror episode of Star Trek]

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5 minutes ago, Yoda said:

I'd be more concerned if people weren't getting vaccinated. Don't take that to mean that I'm not concerned at all, but I don't think we'll see anything like our last spike again. 

65 and older account for 3/4 of the hospitalizations in the US and half of the deaths. Here in LB, 60% of them are vaccinated. That's a big deal, and that will only increase. 

I think the worst is over, assuming one of the new strains renders the vaccine useless, which is possible. 

Yes, I'm also quite optimistic. I did read in the Free Press this morning that a large percent of MAGA aren't going to take the vaccine. It said we need between 70% and 85% of everyone vaccinated (including recovered?) to reach herd immunity. We need the GOP to heavily endorse getting vaccinated.

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Just now, ROMAD1 said:

50m vaccines has got to be making a dent in the deaths at a minimum.  We should be good once we get to 300m vaccines distributed.  The crazy outlier vaxxers can just die and we'll be rid of them in their ignorance.  No chance of them breeding and diminishing the genetic stock with their badly made brains.

[this was the alt-universe ROMAD1 of the Mirror Mirror episode of Star Trek]

Damn, Thanos!

But I agree. 

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2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yes, I'm also quite optimistic. I did read in the Free Press this morning that a large percent of MAGA aren't going to take the vaccine. It said we need between 70% and 85% of everyone vaccinated (including recovered?) to reach herd immunity. We need the GOP to heavily endorse getting vaccinated.

Do we?

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I think a lot of MAGAs will get it and pretend they didn't to maintain their stupidity. 

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3 minutes ago, Yoda said:

I think a lot of MAGAs will get it and pretend they didn't to maintain their stupidity. 

Concur

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1 minute ago, ROMAD1 said:

Concur

Trump got it, if the golden cow got it, it's fine for the followers.  He never went against the vaccine either, so I don't think there is anything built up there.  Traditionally anti-vax mentality was shared across both political parties, but slightly slanted towards liberals.  Many on the left probably didn't help by stating they didn't trust it as it was 'rushed' by the president.

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12 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Trump got it, if the golden cow got it, it's fine for the followers.  He never went against the vaccine either, so I don't think there is anything built up there.  Traditionally anti-vax mentality was shared across both political parties, but slightly slanted towards liberals.  Many on the left probably didn't help by stating they didn't trust it as it was 'rushed' by the president.

He hid that he had it.  He did it in secret.

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22 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Trump got it, if the orange cow got it, it's fine for the followers.  He never went against the vaccine either, so I don't think there is anything built up there.  Traditionally anti-vax mentality was shared across both political parties, but slightly slanted towards liberals.  Many on the left probably didn't help by stating they didn't trust it as it was 'rushed' by the president.

Fixed it.

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According to the CDC, 20% of the population over 18 has at least 1 dose, which we know provides  very good protection.  The 2nd dose is more for long term protection. Granted the protection isn't immediate.  All we have to do is look to Israel.  They are showing the real results.

 

 

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Texas is lifting their mask mandate and opening up to 100%.....

what can go wrong. 

I'm not sure what a mask mandate has to do with small businesses struggling but that's what their governor said.... 

 

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24 minutes ago, Oblong said:

Texas is lifting their mask mandate and opening up to 100%.....

what can go wrong. 

I'm not sure what a mask mandate has to do with small businesses struggling but that's what their governor said.... 

 

in the original version of the movie Red Dawn there is a scene where the mayor is talking to the Russian or the Cuban or whoever officers who control the town who are smoking cigars and discussing the unruly local population. 

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    Mayor Bates : [in Mayor Bates' office, where he is being questioned by Colonel Bella]  Daryl, he wouldn't hurt a fly. I know my son, Colonel. He's not the guerrilla type.

    Colonel Ernesto Bella : According to records, Mayor... your son is a prominent student leader.

    Mayor Bates : Yes, well... he's a leader, but not in a violent or physical way. You see, Daryl... he's more of a politician, like his father.

    Colonel Ernesto Bella : A member of an elite paramilitary organization: "Eagle Scouts."

    Mayor Bates : Yes, but that's not military. If he's alive, he's scared, he's hungry... and he's just as anxious to avoid conflicts as you and me. He's not a troublemaker.

    Colonel Ernesto Bella : Then who is?

    Mayor Bates : ...It runs in some of the families.

    Colonel Ernesto Bella : [to an aide-de-camp]  This community is indeed fortunate to have a shepherd like him.

    Mayor Bates : Well, I just want to see this thing through, Colonel.

     

    Texas is run by Mayor Bates.

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6 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Indiana 7 day/daily positivity rate avg dropped to 830. They are also offering vaccine to 55 and older starting today. I just went onto the website to see how long the wait is. If you schedule today you can get your 1st shot March 13th. The rollout here has been impressive.

It's been a long time since I've visited Schererville ... 😏

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1 hour ago, Oblong said:

Texas is lifting their mask mandate and opening up to 100%.....

what can go wrong. 

I'm not sure what a mask mandate has to do with small businesses struggling but that's what their governor said.... 

 

How can anyone be this stupid? The habits he mentions included wearing masks;

“Also, I am ending the statewide mask mandate," said the governor, fresh off a statewide crisis that threw millions into the freezing cold without power or water, almost as an afterthought. “Texans have mastered the habits to keep from getting COVID."

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1 hour ago, Oblong said:

Texas is lifting their mask mandate and opening up to 100%.....

what can go wrong. 

I'm not sure what a mask mandate has to do with small businesses struggling but that's what their governor said.... 

 

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1 hour ago, ROMAD1 said:

in the original version of the movie Red Dawn there is a scene where the mayor is talking to the Russian or the Cuban or whoever officers who control the town who are smoking cigars and discussing the unruly local population. 

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    Texas is run by Mayor Bates.

I have seen this movie probably 500 times. One of the the first I recorded on the VCR.  The mayor laughs and says “well let’s just say it runs in some of the families”.  
 

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Biden sent a tweet out - it was about having enough vaccines for every American by the end of May.    It had no insults in it.   What a loser. 

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