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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

It's getting close to where it will be time to consider dissolving this Union. When 17 states decide they really would prefer not to play by democratic rules, I don't know what other signal you need.

 

It would be great for the Ports of Toledo and Cleveland -  being the only Great Lakes ports of the new Maga Nation. But we'd need to work out a deal to annex some of southern Ontario to have a land route around OHIO from PA to MI, WI and MN

I know I just made a foreign national of Casimir, but we can crowd fund  a new place in Monroe for him....

Our TX crew is on their own.

Maybe the I80 Corridor could petition to be annexed. Toledo, Cleveland to Pittsburgh. Virginia and Maryland could annex the West Virginia panhandle in exchange land SW of Richmond

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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

It's getting close to where it will be time to consider dissolving this Union. When 17 states decide they really would prefer not to play by democratic rules, I don't know what other signal you need.

California, Oregon and Washington form the new nation of Pacifica, the uppermidwest and northern Altantics state reform as the 'the Olde Union' and leave the south, Texas and mountain west to be the new Maganation or 'new confederacy', or the "White Union" or whatever other title they feel appropriate.". Everyone gets the government they want and at least two of the regions will have a shot at being real democracies, instead of the poor excuse for it we have today.

With the new Panama canal and air transport the East and West coast will have to make due cooperating while divided by 'flyover' country the best they can.

It would be great for the Ports of Toledo and Cleveland -  being the only Great Lakes ports of the new Maga Nation. But we'd need to work out a deal to annex some of southern Ontario to have a land route around OHIO from PA to MI, WI and MN

I know I just made a foreign national of Casimir, but we can crowd fund  a new place in Monroe for him....

Our TX crew is on their own.

Looks like Rush is on board.

 

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14 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Looks like Rush is on board.

 

hows Rushbo doing? Looks like cachexia if that photo is any indication. I guess he just wants to work till he drops dead? I am never sure if I am happy or sad for people who do that. Happy for them that there is nothing they want to do more, or sad for them for the same reason.

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2 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

 

It would be great for the Ports of Toledo and Cleveland -  being the only Great Lakes ports of the new Maga Nation. But we'd need to work out a deal to annex some of southern Ontario to have a land route around OHIO from PA to MI, WI and MN

 

Ha ha, good try on annexing some of Southern Ontario but I think that you have things turned around a bit - all of the New England states will be begging to join Canada!  

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14 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I know I just made a foreign national of Casimir, but we can crowd fund  a new place in Monroe for him....

Whatever did I do to you to deserve this?

This seems a lot like Toledo War kind of stuff.  But as for the official border, here's my plan.  The house two lots south from mine has a Trump flag still up.  Let's draw the line somewhere's between my domicile and there.  I'll even supply the chalk.

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4 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Whatever did I do to you to deserve this?

This seems a lot like Toledo War kind of stuff.  But as for the official border, here's my plan.  The house two lots south from mine has a Trump flag still up.  Let's draw the line somewhere's between my domicile and there.  I'll even supply the chalk.

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15 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

California, Oregon and Washington form the new nation of Pacifica, the uppermidwest and northern Altantics state reform as the 'the Olde Union' and leave the south, Texas and mountain west to be the new Maganation or 'new confederacy', or the "White Union" or whatever other title they feel appropriate.". 

Hawaii is granted its independence. Alaska... does Canada want it? For the land if not the people. I'd like it to go to a country that might try to protect nature. 

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16 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

It's getting close to where it will be time to consider dissolving this Union. When 17 states decide they really would prefer not to play by democratic rules, I don't know what other signal you need.

California, Oregon and Washington form the new nation of Pacifica, the uppermidwest and northern Altantics state reform as the 'the Olde Union' and leave the...

I have an alternative idea...

How about we ask Canada to annex the still-Democratic parts of the U.S.? They could annex Alaska (right next door) & Hawaii, Pacifica (but add in CO (can't believe I forgot Colorado) Nevada & Arizona & New Mexico as well, so we can have some southwest flavor too), extend their borders south in the midwest and Atlantic Seaboard (down to Georgia, excluding Florida), to include MN, WI, MI, ILL, OH (no, Fascist White States of America, you can't have Ohio...), IN (just to keep contiguous states, not because of politics obviously), PA, NH, Vermont, Maine, MA, NY, NJ, Delaware, RI, Connecticut, Maryland, D.C., VA, NC, SC and Georgia. Not all blue states, but I took some geography into consideration.

Liston... can you put in a good word for us?

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23 minutes ago, jbhappy said:

Hawaii is granted its independence. Alaska... does Canada want it? For the land if not the people. I'd like it to go to a country that might try to protect nature. 

I'll add that I, as an Oregonian/Pacifican, would like to keep Nevada for the Las Vegas cash cow. Also Arizona so the fairly-reliably-blue New Mexico can join us and not be left to the wolves. I think we could beat the AZ/NV red hats into submission. 

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13 hours ago, Charles Liston said:

Ha ha, good try on annexing some of Southern Ontario but I think that you have things turned around a bit - all of the New England states will be begging to join Canada!  

This could work for the west coast, too. Even if just Oregon and Washington wanted (back) in, I'd be all for it. 

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11 minutes ago, jbhappy said:

I'll add that I, as an Oregonian/Pacifican, would like to keep Nevada for the Las Vegas cash cow. Also Arizona so the fairly-reliably-blue New Mexico can join us and not be left to the wolves. I think we could beat the AZ/NV red hats into submission. 

Colorado has become reliably blue as well. Need to include them for their weed and Rocky Mountains. 

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4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Colorado has become reliably blue as well. Need to include them for their weed and Rocky Mountains. 

We've got plenty of weed here in Oregon, almost more than we know what to do with can use up before we produce more. But your point is taken.

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It looks nice on paper but California and Oregon don’t coexist.    They are fed up with Californians moving up there.  I also can’t imagine they would be excited at being treated like the little brother in their new country with economic powerhouses like California and Washington.    California would just become their own country.  

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37 minutes ago, jbhappy said:

I'll add that I, as an Oregonian/Pacifican, would like to keep Nevada for the Las Vegas cash cow. Also Arizona so the fairly-reliably-blue New Mexico can join us and not be left to the wolves. I think we could beat the AZ/NV red hats into submission. 

I think you can add Colorado to the list.  Politically and culturally they are part of us.

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

Whatever did I do to you to deserve this?

This seems a lot like Toledo War kind of stuff.  But as for the official border, here's my plan.  The house two lots south from mine has a Trump flag still up.  Let's draw the line somewhere's between my domicile and there.  I'll even supply the chalk.

Who will pay for the wall that will inevitably need to be built?

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