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13 hours ago, kdog said:

They'll be picking in the top 5 for  few more years. 

I'd wager this to be true in '18 & 19 at most.

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57 minutes ago, Alex said:

I believe the following analogy holds true?

The Tigs will also be given first shot at the Rule 5 draft as well.

This may allow another player (or even  two) to be put into the system... I understand they would have to be on the roster all year, but if the player has promise -  then they could put him back in the minors the following year.

It may take a little time, but things can change quickly in this game - just look at the Twins this past year (that might be pushing it - but point is things can change fast).

Yeah, realistically speaking it’s goong to take a few years before the tigers will have a good chance to win again. But that doesn’t mean we can’t hope for the guys we currently have in the system to be exceptions like Fulmer was. Boyd and Norris has down years, but they have enough talent that things could change quickly. 

The position players could make a leap next season. We just don’t know. 

All we really have now is hope. 

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Yeah, hard to see how they are not one of the five worst teams next year. Back to back number one picks not impossible. The year after could see some improvement tho. Could still be in the bottom five, but could just as easily be near middle of pack.

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48 minutes ago, irvink said:

Yeah, hard to see how they are not one of the five worst teams next year. Back to back number one picks not impossible. The year after could see some improvement tho. Could still be in the bottom five, but could just as easily be near middle of pack.

Could be similar to this year where they aren't quite the worst team, but at the deadline we sell off Fulmer,Nicky, Greene and maybe even a Mahtook or Hicks.

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John Manuel at BA has their "Way Too Early" Mock Draft up for next June.

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1. Tigers

Detroit's scouting department hasn't had much experience picking this high, but David Chadd—the club's vice president of amateur scouting and special assistant to GM Al Avila—has picked high before, including working with the Marlins when they picked Josh Beckett (No. 2, 1999) and Adrian Gonzalez (No. 1, 2000). Since he's been in Detroit, coming over from the Red Sox in 2005, Chadd has played a part in shaping the club's college-heavy approach to the draft overall despite a nearly 50-50 split of high school and college top picks.

Having the Tigers at No. 1 makes Florida's Brady Singer a prohibitive favorite. They value top performers in the Southeastern Conference, and may have struck gold in 2017 when Singer's rotation mate from the spring, Alex Faedo, inexplicably fell all the way to the Tigers at No. 18 overall. The duo could help jump-start a Motor City rebuild.

Scouts have some delivery questions, and Singer only got to college because of an issue with his physical with the Blue Jays that scuttled his deal when he was a second-round pick in 2015 out of high school. But he dominated at the end of a 126-inning sophomore season and was the top pitcher in the Cape Cod League in 2016. He has the pedigree and stuff to go No. 1 overall.


 


http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2018/#l8sCsjBGIQb1YghT.97

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Gun to head I would take Singer too.  Still need bats but this draft seems deep in position player prospects.  Singer would put the Tigers on top as far as pitching depth in baseball. 

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3 minutes ago, cruzer1 said:

Gun to head I would take Singer too.  Still need bats but this draft seems deep in position player prospects.  Singer would put the Tigers on top as far as pitching depth in baseball. 

I agree, but I really hope a college bat emerges.  I know you should take best player available, but I would love to find a college bat that can contribute in a few seasons.

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5 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

 

I agree, but I really hope a college bat emerges.  I know you should take best player available, but I would love to find a college bat that can contribute in a few seasons.

Right. If draft were today, you can make a good case that Singer is the guy. Fortunately, we're nine months out and a lot can change.  I, too, hope a college bat emerges, even if it's Madrigal. If not, would be almost as happy if a high schooler like Turang, De Sadas or Gorman breaks away from the pack.

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They value top performers in the Southeastern Conference, and may have struck gold in 2017 when Singer's rotation mate from the spring, Alex Faedo, inexplicably fell all the way to the Tigers at No. 18 overall. The duo could help jump-start a Motor City rebuild.

I also love that Faedo's fall in the draft is now being described as inexplicable. BA did have him as their #1 ranked draft prospect heading into the season. I really look forward to following him next year. 

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14 minutes ago, cruzer1 said:

Gun to head I would take Singer too.  Still need bats but this draft seems deep in position player prospects.  Singer would put the Tigers on top as far as pitching depth in baseball. 

I second that as well... SP depth will create several more opportunities down the line if need be, ex possible trades, RPs for awhile,... they can always find a bat or two more easily than potential young 'frontline' SPs - IMHO.

Do you happen to know when (ex by such a date) the Tigs will get the PTBNL from the Cubs? I remember you mentioned a possibility of someone like OF D.J. Wilson or another name (I forgot) - Wilson seems to be a good choice IF available.

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7 minutes ago, Alex said:

I second that as well... SP depth will create several more opportunities down the line if need be, ex possible trades, RPs for awhile,... they can always find a bat or two more easily than potential young 'frontline' SPs - IMHO.

Do you happen to know when (ex by such a date) the Tigs will get the PTBNL from the Cubs? I remember you mentioned a possibility of someone like OF D.J. Wilson or another name (I forgot) - Wilson seems to be a good choice IF available.

I don't think it is more difficult to find top pitchers than top position players.  It is harder to keep pitchers healthy, but it's difficult to find either of them.  Because it is hard to keep pitchers healthy and they are generally more unpredictable, I would rather they draft position players with top picks all things being equal.    

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1 minute ago, tiger337 said:

I don't think it is more difficult to find top pitchers than top position players.  It is harder to keep pitchers healthy, but it's difficult to find either of them.  Because it is hard to keep pitchers healthy and they are generally more unpredictable, I would rather they draft position players with top picks all things being equal.    

Exactly. The attrition rate on arms is just so high.  I'd much rather go the way of the Cubs... Draft impact bats at top of draft. Fill in SP gaps in other ways, trades - big and small, FA.

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1 hour ago, cruzer1 said:

Gun to head I would take Singer too.  Still need bats but this draft seems deep in position player prospects.  Singer would put the Tigers on top as far as pitching depth in baseball. 

If he has a strong spring and looks like the clear number one, that would be a fine pick. Being a college stud he'd obviously be in a position to move fast through the minors as well. 

They should just then spend their next 5 picks on position players. I hope to see like 7 or 8 of their picks in the next couple first 5 rounds of the draft spent on position players. We really need an influx in both quality and quantity of position prospects.

 

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50 minutes ago, irvink said:

Exactly. The attrition rate on arms is just so high.  I'd much rather go the way of the Cubs... Draft impact bats at top of draft. Fill in SP gaps in other ways, trades - big and small, FA.

Plus we've already got Fulmer as a solid SP to build the rotation around. We really don't have anybody to build our future lineup around, and that's 9 spots vs. 4 for the rotation. Castellanos and Candelario both could be quality depth players, but they're not the 2-3 differences makers that a lineup needs to separate itself. They can be the solid depth players that make our lineup deep that we lacked during the stars vs. scrubs era, but we need to find all star, MVP type position players if we want to compete again. 

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2 hours ago, tiger337 said:

I don't think it is more difficult to find top pitchers than top position players.  It is harder to keep pitchers healthy, but it's difficult to find either of them.  Because it is hard to keep pitchers healthy and they are generally more unpredictable, I would rather they draft position players with top picks all things being equal.    

I see the point, but it often seems that when you spend big on SP's that 'keeping healthy' applies there as well... It seems finding/signing a FA hitter with a track record, then the possibility of him keeping up to that standard, may be greater than the SP - but, I have no facts to back this. It would be interesting to know this type of % / data - if it even exists, with regards to FA signings.

I do think we are starting to get some SP depth in the system. I like the idea of maybe signing one more at the no. 1 pick, then concentrating on position players afterwards... Then looking into trades and FA.

Yet, have made Cubs a strong statement otherwise. Scouting, scouting and more strong scouting, coupled with some luck will go a long ways.

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17 hours ago, irvink said:

Exactly. The attrition rate on arms is just so high.  I'd much rather go the way of the Cubs... Draft impact bats at top of draft. Fill in SP gaps in other ways, trades - big and small, FA.

It depends. If there's a guy that's gonna stick at shortstop and be an all-star, or a guy that can hit and really cover CF, that's your guy. If you're talking a guy that might have to move to 1B or a guy that's going to be a corner OF, then I'd rather have the starting pitcher.

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In the 2009 draft, the Nats picked Strasburg but the Ms ended up with a great pick with Dustin Ackley. While Ackley's position and defense and power may have been in doubt, one thing that was was certain was that he would hit. An advanced college bat against good competition, he batted over .400 for 3 straight years, drawing more walks than strikeouts every year. But he never hit. 

In the 2013 draft, it was just reversed. The Astros picked Appel, who looks awful so far, and the Cubs got Bryant.

Scary to think that among the top 5 picks from 2009-2013, the bust rate is about 40%.

 
 
 
 

 

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On 10/2/2017 at 5:26 PM, irvink said:

Exactly. The attrition rate on arms is just so high.  I'd much rather go the way of the Cubs... Draft impact bats at top of draft. Fill in SP gaps in other ways, trades - big and small, FA.

I feel like the quickest way to success is with pitching, but it's also the quickest way to failure.  I think building around position players is the best way to achieve sustained success.  

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26 minutes ago, Brian said:

That 2nd pitch... 94 with a TON of sink. Yikes. Crazy run when its further up in the zone as well. 

Why do they call that a slider? It only comes in at 80 and at times has 12-6 break. That's a curveball all day. Some of them look like a slider but seems too slow. 

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I'm no expert on pitching technique, but his delivery kind of scares me wrt potential injury. Am I wrong to think that?

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4 minutes ago, holygoat said:

I'm no expert on pitching technique, but his delivery kind of scares me wrt potential injury. Am I wrong to think that?

no, you're wrong to have Bill Bonds as your avatar.

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