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19 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Dave Dombrowski kept the Tigers team good for quite a long time in large part on the strength of the trades he made.

He may be the exception to the rule, though.

 

He got a little bit lucky at times, too.  How good would the Tigers have been with Rich Aurilia at SS instead of Carlos Guillen?

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10 hours ago, sabretooth said:

Yeah, I mean Victor did have an MVP level season in 2014 after signing the contract before completely toasting his knee before 2015, and bounced back to have a pretty decent 2016.  2014 and 2016 should have both been playoff seasons (2014 was, briefly) and they could have gone deep in either case.

I understand the negativity about Victor's contract but keeping him was completely defensible and would have worked fine if not for the other problems on the team.

Didn't MartinezV sign the extension after his 2014 season?

I don't know if that season fed into the decision to resign him or not.  Career season at the age of 35.  It probably did to some extent.  I don't know.

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Everyone gets lucky or unlucky at times.

Fact remains he objectively gained far more value than what he gave up in trades in his tenure with the Tigers and it wasn't close.  No team or individual GM traded nearly as well as the Tigers did over that time-frame, and it wasn't close.

Given the differential and time-frames involved, I'd say it implies very strongly it was both a skill and he possessed it or leveraged it far in excess of his peers.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Everyone gets lucky or unlucky at times.

Fact remains he objectively gained far more value than what he gave up in trades in his tenure with the Tigers and it wasn't close.  No team or individual GM traded nearly as well as the Tigers did over that time-frame, and it wasn't close.

Given the differential and time-frames involved, I'd say it implies very strongly it was both a skill and he possessed it or leveraged it far in excess of his peers.

No question he came out on top more often than not.  And, sure, sometimes luck plays a factor.

I just wonder how this era would have turned out had a couple of the earlier transactions that he made (or didn't make) had gone another way.  The Aurilia/Guillen thing has always been one of those deals in the back of my mind where I just wonder, what if?  

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30 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

My life would be different if I moved to Cincinnati immediately after graduating college to be with my girlfriend at the time.

But I didn't, so here I am.

So you took that fork in the road when you got to it, eh?

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48 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Didn't MartinezV sign the extension after his 2014 season?

I don't know if that season fed into the decision to resign him or not.  Career season at the age of 35.  It probably did to some extent.  I don't know.

Whoops, sorry that's right.

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Reading through this since I last posted, what is the answer to the question,  "Are Brad's days numbered?"

If I were to read between the lines, I'd say Brad finishes the year and is given the permission to talk to other teams in September. The only thing I can say is that it's pretty clear that changes are coming. I honestly have doubts that Brad will want to come back even if offered. I think the tigers will go in a new direction. Whether AA senior stays on remains to be seen.

 

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On 6/27/2017 at 7:28 AM, Casimir said:

 The Aurilia/Guillen thing has always been one of those deals in the back of my mind where I just wonder, what if?  

That one is a contender for Dombrowski's best trade and it rarely gets mentioned.  Very underrated.  

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1 hour ago, HeyAbbott said:

Reading through this since I last posted, what is the answer to the question,  "Are Brad's days numbered?"

If I were to read between the lines, I'd say Brad finishes the year and is given the permission to talk to other teams in September. The only thing I can say is that it's pretty clear that changes are coming. I honestly have doubts that Brad will want to come back even if offered. I think the tigers will go in a new direction. Whether AA senior stays on remains to be seen.

 

I also think Ausmus will have no trouble finding another job.  I am kind of neutral on him, but I have a sense he is he is highly regarded in the game.  Dombrowski hiring him despite no previous managerial experience and Avila holding onto him even when it seemed the owner wanted him gone says a lot.  

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51 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

I also think Ausmus will have no trouble finding another job.  I am kind of neutral on him, but I have a sense he is he is highly regarded in the game.  Dombrowski hiring him despite no previous managerial experience and Avila holding onto him even when it seemed the owner wanted him gone says a lot.  

I think this season more than any is showing how far the Tigers were behind analytically. Well, that and the Znn/Pelfrey signings. It seems like we're lacking on the fringes on a lot of things, which I can't really prove, but like video work with mechanics, pitch selection, sign stealing, tipping pitches, pitch deception.

One interesting thing with the bats, the Tigers lead MLB in hard hit %, but are last in pull %. Altho I've read speculation that Comerica's data reads a bit hot.

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On Sunday, July 02, 2017 at 6:26 PM, tiger337 said:

I also think Ausmus will have no trouble finding another job.  I am kind of neutral on him, but I have a sense he is he is highly regarded in the game.  Dombrowski hiring him despite no previous managerial experience and Avila holding onto him even when it seemed the owner wanted him gone says a lot.  

There are others on this board who probably have contacts with the team, but as I understand it, there have been inquiries regarding his availability in the past. I think that the only unknown at this point is which of the players are traded first. I would put my money on AA jr.

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I've mellowed a little on Ausmus but still want him gone. There might be a team or two like the Phillies or Padres who would give him their manager's job if we fired him, but he's not getting canned here and walking into a better job right away. More likely that he would go somewhere as a coach for a couple years, IMO.

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4 hours ago, HeyAbbott said:

There are others on this board who probably have contacts with the team, but as I understand it, there have been inquiries regarding his availability in the past. I think that the only unknown at this point is which of the players are traded first. I would put my money on AA jr.

It think it was Peter Gammons who wrote that last year.  He mentioned the Red Sox as one team that was interested.  

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I have mixed feelings on Ausmus.  On the one hand, in spite of the fact I don't think it's a good policy to hire first-time managers, I don't think it makes much sense to fire them after just a few seasons.  That's a bad habit to get into.  I have no doubt that Ausmus knows the game, but I wonder about the people aspects of the job.  The putting out of fires in the clubhouse. Not in a macho head games sort of way, but understanding what makes certain players tick.  This is a question more than a statement.  I don't know how he does with that aspect of the job.

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On 7/4/2017 at 4:26 PM, Gehringer_2 said:

I'm at peace with the odds of any new manager proving to us that Brad was better.

The thing is that any new manager would very likely have to contend with a more difficult situation with significantly less talent and older remaining talent than Brad has had from day 1.

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On 7/2/2017 at 7:35 PM, Who is the Drizzle? said:

I think this season more than any is showing how far the Tigers were behind analytically. Well, that and the Znn/Pelfrey signings. It seems like we're lacking on the fringes on a lot of things, which I can't really prove, but like video work with mechanics, pitch selection, sign stealing, tipping pitches, pitch deception.

One interesting thing with the bats, the Tigers lead MLB in hard hit %, but are last in pull %. Altho I've read speculation that Comerica's data reads a bit hot.

In Jeff Sullivan's article today about JV, he noted that the hard hit rate against JV is high, but that it is high for other Tigers pitchers, too. So comerica's data could indeed be hot. 

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I keep hearing how the TEAM respects Brad and how smart Brad is......this may be true, but he's not winning anything, hasn't won anything and I feel it's time for him to go.   If the team is going to make wholesale changes, Brad must be included in that.

I'd rather not have Gardenhire.  I see him as an older version of Brad.   

 

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3 hours ago, eastside billee said:

I keep hearing how the TEAM respects Brad and how smart Brad is......this may be true, but he's not winning anything, hasn't won anything and I feel it's time for him to go.   If the team is going to make wholesale changes, Brad must be included in that.

I'd rather not have Gardenhire.  I see him as an older version of Brad.   

 

No manager couldn't win with this team.  There is only so much a manager can do.  This team stinks.

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