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1 hour ago, Antrat said:

It did not bug me. I do find it a bit sad that that is the way you have fun, trying to get under people's skin that you don't even know.

But good for you.

No, I just have fun calling you hypocrites. Yes, you know who you are....Ye of the very fast bandwagon jumpers. Pages 7 through 11 of this thread will document you all. It was like watching a bunch of drowning ants....

The Tigers were 14-14 in September and first 2 days of October. For those of you scoring at home, that's a 500 ball club. I knew they were a 500 (or slightly better) ball club and said so most of the year. Yet I will note that who is the drizzle, on August 13th, said the following: 

"The schedule gets a lot, lot easier now." This is but one of many of the unbelievable statements to come from the mouths of the 'experts' this summer. 

I was flamed all throughout August and September for stating the obvious- that the schedule did not, in fact, get "alot easier" and for saying that I did not see this team doing what it needed to do to make it. For the record, I was proven right (sadly--as I have been a tiger fan for decades, I take no pleasure in this). If you'd like to point out that I was wrong about our total wins (86 vs. 85), that's fine. I can live with being .006% wrong. I think it's even money that had we been forced to play more than 5 innings of the last game against cleveland, we might have ended up with 85, but that's a minor point now.

I'd frankly respect some of you a whole lot more if you manned up and admitted when you were wrong instead of pretending you were right, particularly as you all eloquently cut and ran a half hour before today's final game ended. And then on top of that, you then troll me for having some fun at your expense. That's both precious and sad at the same time.  

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2 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

Rod Allen said that the team would change "drastically" before 2017....payroll adjustments.   Not that he's a World Historical Genius but...hmm...

I saw that interview also.  I have a feeling his interpretation of drastic changes is different than mine.  

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2 hours ago, rhino said:

During Vin Scully's last inning he had this to say about his retiring (by way of Dr. Suess), "Don't be sad that it's over, be glad that it happened."

I think this applies to the Tiger season as well. The season was exciting down to the last day, down to the last inning. Of course we wanted to see them make the playoffs, but being in the thick of things until the last pitch was pretty darn fun.

I agree with him.  Its why I don't have much venom towards the 2006 & 2012 World Series.  Its why I can take game 163 for a fantastic watch rather than be absorbed in the defeat it was for the Tigers.  Finishing a game or two out sucks.  But it ain't anywhere near the suck that most of 1988-2005 was.

That's actually beautiful stuff.  All of the literature and quotations and other lines that he can come up with to close it out, and he goes with Dr. Suess.  That's just simply marvelous.

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10 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

As a result of the Braves two wins in this series, they went from second overall pick to 5th. I hope the first four are now HOFers and pick 5 is matt anderson. 

Doesn't matter. They'd just trade the equivalent of Doyle Alexander for one of the Hofer's. 

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3 hours ago, ROMAD1 said:

The bullpen had a really good stretch.  

 

The good stretch (2+ months) proved that the bullpen/organization had enough talent to put a decent bullpen together, again, but they (Al and Brad) blew it, and in Brads case, for the 3rd year in a row.  

Brad sucks at bullpen mgt, unfortunately.  Maybe he'll figure it out someday, but I'm not counting on it.

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3 hours ago, stanpapi said:

No, I just have fun calling you hypocrites. Yes, you know who you are....Ye of the very fast bandwagon jumpers. Pages 7 through 11 of this thread will document you all. It was like watching a bunch of drowning ants....

The Tigers were 14-14 in September and first 2 days of October. For those of you scoring at home, that's a 500 ball club. I knew they were a 500 (or slightly better) ball club and said so most of the year. Yet I will note that who is the drizzle, on August 13th, said the following: 

"The schedule gets a lot, lot easier now." This is but one of many of the unbelievable statements to come from the mouths of the 'experts' this summer. 

I was flamed all throughout August and September for stating the obvious- that the schedule did not, in fact, get "alot easier" and for saying that I did not see this team doing what it needed to do to make it. For the record, I was proven right (sadly--as I have been a tiger fan for decades, I take no pleasure in this). If you'd like to point out that I was wrong about our total wins (86 vs. 85), that's fine. I can live with being .006% wrong. I think it's even money that had we been forced to play more than 5 innings of the last game against cleveland, we might have ended up with 85, but that's a minor point now.

I'd frankly respect some of you a whole lot more if you manned up and admitted when you were wrong instead of pretending you were right, particularly as you all eloquently cut and ran a half hour before today's final game ended. And then on top of that, you then troll me for having some fun at your expense. That's both precious and sad at the same time.  

Rob Parker?

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3 hours ago, stanpapi said:

No, I just have fun calling you hypocrites. Yes, you know who you are....Ye of the very fast bandwagon jumpers. Pages 7 through 11 of this thread will document you all. It was like watching a bunch of drowning ants....

The Tigers were 14-14 in September and first 2 days of October. For those of you scoring at home, that's a 500 ball club. I knew they were a 500 (or slightly better) ball club and said so most of the year. Yet I will note that who is the drizzle, on August 13th, said the following: 

"The schedule gets a lot, lot easier now." This is but one of many of the unbelievable statements to come from the mouths of the 'experts' this summer. 

I was flamed all throughout August and September for stating the obvious- that the schedule did not, in fact, get "alot easier" and for saying that I did not see this team doing what it needed to do to make it. For the record, I was proven right (sadly--as I have been a tiger fan for decades, I take no pleasure in this). If you'd like to point out that I was wrong about our total wins (86 vs. 85), that's fine. I can live with being .006% wrong. I think it's even money that had we been forced to play more than 5 innings of the last game against cleveland, we might have ended up with 85, but that's a minor point now.

I'd frankly respect some of you a whole lot more if you manned up and admitted when you were wrong instead of pretending you were right, particularly as you all eloquently cut and ran a half hour before today's final game ended. And then on top of that, you then troll me for having some fun at your expense. That's both precious and sad at the same time.  

You need some help, dude.

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3 hours ago, stanpapi said:

No, I just have fun calling you hypocrites. Yes, you know who you are....Ye of the very fast bandwagon jumpers. Pages 7 through 11 of this thread will document you all. It was like watching a bunch of drowning ants....

The Tigers were 14-14 in September and first 2 days of October. For those of you scoring at home, that's a 500 ball club. I knew they were a 500 (or slightly better) ball club and said so most of the year. Yet I will note that who is the drizzle, on August 13th, said the following: 

"The schedule gets a lot, lot easier now." This is but one of many of the unbelievable statements to come from the mouths of the 'experts' this summer. 

I was flamed all throughout August and September for stating the obvious- that the schedule did not, in fact, get "alot easier" and for saying that I did not see this team doing what it needed to do to make it. For the record, I was proven right (sadly--as I have been a tiger fan for decades, I take no pleasure in this). If you'd like to point out that I was wrong about our total wins (86 vs. 85), that's fine. I can live with being .006% wrong. I think it's even money that had we been forced to play more than 5 innings of the last game against cleveland, we might have ended up with 85, but that's a minor point now.

I'd frankly respect some of you a whole lot more if you manned up and admitted when you were wrong instead of pretending you were right, particularly as you all eloquently cut and ran a half hour before today's final game ended. And then on top of that, you then troll me for having some fun at your expense. That's both precious and sad at the same time.  

You didn't predict 85 wins dude.  In May and June you said they weren't going to finish .500, when they started winning you said that they would get to 85 wins "at best".  That's not predicting 85 wins, that's saying that the absolute best they can do is 85 wins, I think it's safe to say they didn't play their absolute best, yet they still won more than that.  There was room for them to win 90+.  

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1 hour ago, Antrat said:

You need some help, dude.

Read my posts. I said it was not possible for this team to play to the kind of winning percentage necessary to make it. And they didn't. Yet I was constantly flamed for those comments. I was told I was full of it- even when I said "580 or 600 ball" was needed to likely get in. Many of you thought a 530 team would suddenly start playing out of its mind and do that. All I did was say what I thought, backed up by statistical reality. And what happened? We played like a 530-ish team. So shocking. 

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7 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Verlander is going to get pissed again that Henning keeps trying to trade him, especially since he can veto any trade.

Why would JV necessarily veto a trade? Don't forget he now has an SO whose work interests are all on the coasts, Does he have any business interests tying him to Det?

Who would blame him for believing the Tiger BP cost him the CY this season? (assuming he doesn't get it anyway).

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7 hours ago, stanpapi said:

Read my posts. I said it was not possible for this team to play to the kind of winning percentage necessary to make it. And they didn't.

Congratulations for correctly predicting the team wouldn't play 0.600 ball over a 30 game stretch.

The fact they did not does not somehow mean it wasn't possible for them to do it, however.  They could have very easily gotten another 2 wins in that timeframe. 

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Bummer.  They finished right around where I thought they would be at the beginning of the year, but you always hope that is enough for the playoffs...or you hope they win 1 or 2 more than you predicted and make it in.

Do some retooling for next year.  I will still most likely be there the beginning of March for ST in Lakeland and I am already looking forward to see what moves they make to try and get better.  Hopefully they do not blow it up.  That is the only thing that would be a bummer IMO.  Try to trade a few minor pieces, bolster the pen, add another arm etc etc. 

I am bummed they did not make the post season, but TBH with the injuries they had at key positions they made a good run at it all things considered.

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4 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Why would JV necessarily veto a trade? Don't forget he now has an SO whose work interests are all on the coasts, Does he have any business interests tying him to Det?

Who would blame him for believing the Tiger BP cost him the CY this season? (assuming he doesn't get it anyway).

I didn't say he wouldn't, only that Henning never includes the fact that it's not solely the Tigers decision to make.  I could see him agreeing to a trade to select markets, but I also think he genuinely likes it here--if he felt that the org wasn't committing to winning at some point (which is likely when they'd want to move him, anyways).  I don't think Kate Upton is a factor in this--her career only has a few years remaining.  

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