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I'd guess trade market. With Upton and JD around for at least two more seasons, along with Gose and Maybin, that makes Collins and Moya look pretty superfluous.

Bastardo is the biggest name out there, but I don't suspect they will be spending that kind of money at this point. Still a lot of lesser FAs who could provide depth though.

I do like having Collins at AAA, as he can nicely slot in if any OFer or 1b/DH type is hurt. Wouldn't be opposed to dealing him for a halfway decent arm, but he's the sort of guy I think could be worth more to us than other teams.

I also haven't given up hope on Moya. Again, not opposed to trading him, but think I'd rather wait and see if he can have a solid year repeating AAA, at the very least, to raise his trade value.

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So I was reading a bit into the CBA re: luxury tax/revenue sharing. The deal is this:

The top 14 big market clubs (DET is not in this group) do not receive revenue sharing directly anymore in 2016. Instead, what these 14 teams would have received (~$30M ea.) goes into a secondary fund that is proportionally re-distributed to teams that pay out more revenue sharing than they take in.

This re-distribution (refund) is what is held back if a team goes over the luxury tax twice, and the penalties increase after that. So basically, the Yankees do not get any of their $30M in revenue sharing back, having been over the cap 5 times in a row.

In the end, this is not really relevant to the Tigers, who as of 2013 received more revenue sharing than they put in, and therefore would not get this refund and not have to worry about any penalties.

In conclusion, nothing to worry about, the only penalty (under this CBA) will be the marginal tax.

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Bastardo is the biggest name out there, but I don't suspect they will be spending that kind of money at this point. Still a lot of lesser FAs who could provide depth though.

I do like having Collins at AAA, as he can nicely slot in if any OFer or 1b/DH type is hurt. Wouldn't be opposed to dealing him for a halfway decent arm, but he's the sort of guy I think could be worth more to us than other teams.

I also haven't given up hope on Moya. Again, not opposed to trading him, but think I'd rather wait and see if he can have a solid year repeating AAA, at the very least, to raise his trade value.

I'm not for or against keeping either Collins or Moya, as neither are likely to amount to much at the major league level. It was merely an assessment that these players are blocked for a minimum of two years, and that it is more likely that we get cheap depth from the trade market than through free agency. And I suspect that is what the organization is after, rather than the more marquee names left available as FA's. And therefore, these two seem expendable in such a trade.

But if we were to keep one of those, I'd certainly prefer Moya over Collins, who pretty much brings nothing to the table in my eyes. If I had my druthers, I'd look for a couple of veteran arms available on minor league deals with opt-outs extended until June or sometime mid-season, then stick them at Toledo as insurance. That is the sort of pitching depth I'd like to see, but something that the organization didn't explore under DD -- so I have my doubts that they do now.

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IMHO, the Astros, Rangers and Cubs have an assortment of players on their 40-man rosters right now who I feel confident will make a positive impact in the MLB in 2019, and I think these organizations are probably committed to these guys. The Cardinals, Red Sox and Dodgers also have multiple high-impact young players, but I'm less confident that these organizations and players are going to pan out together past 2018. The Twins and Indians have some good young players, not in the league of the other teams.

Putting aside the Astros for a minute, the above teams are likely to compete in 2019 based on how well they spend the last $100M on their rosters. The base of young talent is important, but IMHO it's not nearly as determinative of who makes the playoffs as compared to the quality of their top-paid FAs.

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I'm no expert, but what made Dombrowski so much fun was his ability to over-hype prospects and turn them into Miguel Cabreras. I have loved every moment of Al Al's first winter, but it remains to be seen if he has the same sort of magic touch.

Not that I think it matters very much - signing free agents and trading pieces to add depth is hugely awesome, and important. But at times DD almost seemed magical. Anyone can offer an FA boatloads of cash and smile while they sign a contract.

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Mr. Liston...that was very dry.

I want Cespedes to go to the Mets because I enjoyed the story of the Mets being better than the Yankees and nobody is more fragile than the Met fan in the face of Yankee arrogance. I also want to deny Cespedes to the White Sox and the Nationals. Nats fans are the opposite of fragile. They have a paper thin enthusiasm that resembles their ability to deal with driving in snow.

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I recall reading an article somewhere that stated Tommy Hunter and Alex Avila were college roommates or buddies...and that Al could look to sign him based on past relationships, even after Alex left.

I thought it was an interesting tidbit.

Tommy could also possibly fit the mold of the swing starter they've been rumored to be looking for.

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I recall reading an article somewhere that stated Tommy Hunter and Alex Avila were college roommates or buddies...and that Al could look to sign him based on past relationships, even after Alex left.

I thought it was an interesting tidbit.

Tommy could also possibly fit the mold of the swing starter they've been rumored to be looking for.

Hunter has been strictly a RP for three full seasons now. I don't think any organization would be looking at him as a swingman, in my opinion. Also, He's probably in line for $4+ million/season and multiple years, and I would be surprised if we were looking at spending that much for someone who projects to be the 5th or 6th arm in the bullpen (depending on what you think of Alex Wilson and Hardy).

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