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Teague was brilliant down the stretch. He made two great plays/passes with under a minute left. Both getting Carroll an open shot/layup.

I think road teams are now 7-0 in game six so far this year. That is a crazy number.

You are not allowed to give any Hawk credit on this board. Shame on you

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No one gives the Hawk the type of credit you feel they deserve, certainly not Brad Beal who had a **** eating grin every time he torched Korver or Kenny Bazemore. Seriously, the Hawks have done nothing but prove how vulnerable they are. They are physically incapable of dominating any team, they have to outscrap and outscheme, they play the Nets just as close as they do the Wiz with or without Wall. That's because they can't win with a talent discrepency against ANY PLAYOFF TEAM. Wall missing 2 games was about as close to a DNP CD (rest) as you will ever see in a playoff series. He could have played, but the Wiz knew they could hang with the lowly Hawks w/o him. I honestly think they were paying the Hawks back for that time when the Hawks sat their guys in a reg season game against them and Wall threw a fit and saw it as disrespect. Not playing Wall for 2 games was the biggest slap in the face any team could do to the Hawks. It's way more insulting than anything I have said about those Hacks. "Atlanta Hacks", why didn't I think of that obvious insult earlier? Off my game.

The Hawks have as little talent as a team can have and still win 60 games. The playoffs have easily exposed them, and they have needed a lot of things to go their way to make it as far as they have. They would have been a 1st round exit in the West vs any team not located in Portland.

In review, the Hawks have some nerve doing what they do. Some nerve.

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The one thing that bugs me about the stat community is when they ignore context. They loved advocating Korver for the AS squad. Korver is a perfect example, why didn't they see him for what he is? Literally nothing more than a role player. In the regular season when the intensity toggles between "we are trying to lose" and "we can win 50 games in today's horrific NBA regular season with our B team" he can get some open looks on the backs of other people hard work in the flow of a competent offense, but in the playoffs when the phrase "limit open looks" is actually emphasized on the blackboard in team meetings, he puts up these stat lines in a row:

GM 3- 6 pts 2/5 FGs

GM 4- 6 pts 2/4

GM 5- 3 pts 1/5

GM 6- 2 pts 1/8

All-Star? Kyle Korver somehow has just made that phrase mean less than it did before. We are officially changing the fraud-star squad name from the Jameer Nelson All-stars to the Kyle Korver All-Stars. You wanna take Kyle Korver out of the game? Just try, that's all it takes. He had more fouls in gms 5 and 6 than he did points. Brad Beal is offended at the idea of a Kyle Korver playing in an AS game, I haven't seen a player be as openly dismissive of the guy guarding him since Jordan v Suns in the early 90's Finals.

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The one thing that bugs me about the stat community is when they ignore context. They loved advocating Korver for the AS squad. Korver is a perfect example, why didn't they see him for what he is? Literally nothing more than a role player. In the regular season when the intensity toggles between "we are trying to lose" and "we can win 50 games in today's horrific NBA regular season with our B team" he can get some open looks on the backs of other people hard work in the flow of a competent offense, but in the playoffs when the phrase "limit open looks" is actually emphasized on the blackboard in team meetings, he puts up these stat lines in a row:

GM 3- 6 pts 2/5 FGs

GM 4- 6 pts 2/4

GM 5- 3 pts 1/5

GM 6- 2 pts 1/8

All-Star? Kyle Korver somehow has just made that phrase mean less than it did before. We are officially changing the fraud-star squad name from the Jameer Nelson All-stars to the Kyle Korver All-Stars. You wanna take Kyle Korver out of the game? Just try, that's all it takes. He had more fouls in gms 5 and 6 than he did points. Brad Beal is offended at the idea of a Kyle Korver playing in an AS game, I haven't seen a player be as openly dismissive of the guy guarding him since Jordan v Suns in the early 90's Finals.

I don't really disagree with your point on Korver, but on a night to night basis over 82, his efficiency is very valuable and it helped the Hawks win a ton of games. That's what AS games are about in the end, not playoff success.

Also, in the playoffs, even when he's not scoring much, its valuable that a team has to put so much in to guarding him. Its a big part of why Carroll went off IMO. I don't really see the Hawks as a title team, so your opinion on them doesn't bother me a ton(though its clearly hyperbolic much of the time), but I do also think the Wizards got underrated. Paul Pierce knows how to win come postseason time and the Wizards' record fell off a bit when Beal got hurt for a long stretch. Plus Porter came on. That's a good Washington team that could have hung with a lot of teams with a healthy Wall.

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So my prediction...

Bulls over Cavs

Wash over Atlanta

Bulls over Wash. But might be a good series.

Houston over Clipz

GS over Griz

GS over Houston

GS over Bulls in 6. 7.

Oh well. I tried. Wish Wall wouldn't have been hurt.

Edit...As long as the Clipz didn't make it, I'm happy.

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What a choke job by the Clippers.

So is Doc the only coach ever to lose two series after being up 3-1?

I guess but I wasn't expecting them to be up 3-1. The Clippers look great when things are going their way and lost during adversity. (In my limited views of them this season.) McHale seems in his element with this team.

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The Clippers just don't have the talent. They're a good team, but everyone in the West is talented at the top. Paul/Blake is going to play to roughly a draw against a Harden/Howard or Lillard/Aldridge type pairing, or Blake/Paul/Deandre will play even to Gasol/Randolph/Conley. Its going to come down to the supporting cast and they're just too average. The aforementioned Deandre Jordan is overrated, They have nothing on the bench up front or at the point and I'd feel a lot more comfortable about Barnes as a bench guy.

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The Clippers just don't have the talent. They're a good team, but everyone in the West is talented at the top. Paul/Blake is going to play to roughly a draw against a Harden/Howard or Lillard/Aldridge type pairing, or Blake/Paul/Deandre will play even to Gasol/Randolph/Conley. Its going to come down to the supporting cast and they're just too average. The aforementioned Deandre Jordan is overrated, They have nothing on the bench up front or at the point and I'd feel a lot more comfortable about Barnes as a bench guy.

Totally Doc's fault, As a coach I always thought Doc was overrated. Sometimes average coach's can win titles, there is no rule against an average coach having a team that gets hot in the playoffs or having a team with unusual mental toughness. Doc is not the top 3 coach he is often billed as. As a GM or VP or whatever his front office role is officially defined as, he failed. When Austin Rivers is your best acquisition, you failed 10x over. Glen Davis? Fail. Spencer Hawes? Barely played and he makes a lot of money. I am not sure if he brought Crawford in, he is good at what he does, but even then, that doesn't excuse Matt Barnes being your 35 minute a night SF. That doesn't excuse the abysmal return they got for Bledsoe. Just Redick, who is fine, but it sure seems like Bledsoe should have netted more than Dudley and JJ.

Doc ruined the Clips window. Never forget that guys when discussing Doc's career accomplishments. He won a title with a great GM and closed the window on the Clips.

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You were saying?

Yah, I'll have to eat that one. Congrats to the Rockets. Smith can **** off still tho.

I know its only the conference finals right now, but I hope we don't have to hear things like "Harden and Howard aren't stars and aren't guys you can win with" any more

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Totally Doc's fault, As a coach I always thought Doc was overrated. Sometimes average coach's can win titles, there is no rule against an average coach having a team that gets hot in the playoffs or having a team with unusual mental toughness. Doc is not the top 3 coach he is often billed as. As a GM or VP or whatever his front office role is officially defined as, he failed. When Austin Rivers is your best acquisition, you failed 10x over. Glen Davis? Fail. Spencer Hawes? Barely played and he makes a lot of money. I am not sure if he brought Crawford in, he is good at what he does, but even then, that doesn't excuse Matt Barnes being your 35 minute a night SF. That doesn't excuse the abysmal return they got for Bledsoe. Just Redick, who is fine, but it sure seems like Bledsoe should have netted more than Dudley and JJ.

Doc ruined the Clips window. Never forget that guys when discussing Doc's career accomplishments. He won a title with a great GM and closed the window on the Clips.

I think Doc can coach. Not sure if he's top 3 or what though. Agree that he isn't doing well as a GM. I've said for a while now that the Clippers trading away Bledsoe hurt them worse than losing Harden hurt OKC. Harden's the better player, but OKC has the ammo to make up for Harden being gone. Bledsoe is exactly what LAC is missing and they could have found a shooter like Reddick via other means.

I really thought Hawes was going to be a great fit there. I have no idea what happened with him. Blake needs help up front though.

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Yah, I'll have to eat that one. Congrats to the Rockets. Smith can **** off still tho.

I know its only the conference finals right now, but I hope we don't have to hear things like "Harden and Howard aren't stars and aren't guys you can win with" any more

All you have to do is play a team ruined by Rondo and then draw Doc in the second round.

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All you have to do is play a team ruined by Rondo and then draw Doc in the second round.

You aren't good if you lose, the teams you beat don't count because they lost to you so therefore must suck. Talk about your double edge sword. The Clippers were a good team that just beat the defending champs and the Rockets took the 2 seed with Howard hurt for a long time. They've earned some credit.

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Yah, I'll have to eat that one. Congrats to the Rockets. Smith can **** off still tho.

I know its only the conference finals right now, but I hope we don't have to hear things like "Harden and Howard aren't stars and aren't guys you can win with" any more

Dwight already lead an average team to the finals years ago. Anyone making this argument is completely discarding history. As far as Harden goes, he is still a young player. He is doing just fine for where he is in his career.

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That is exactly what I said.

Ok, I am exaggerating a bit from what you said but I have been hearing a lot of that now.

The Dwight Howard/Josh Smith hate is strong, and people are suddenly saying Dallas and LA were easy matchups. Houston is a good team. They had the 2nd best record in the West and are now in the WCF. For all their problems, they have consistently been one of the best teams in the NBA all year.

My bold prediction is that Harden will out perform Curry in the WCF.

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