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Current tiger most likely to get a comerica statue?


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  1. 1. Which current tiger has the best chance?

    • Miguel Cabrera
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    • Justin Verlander
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    • Brandon Inge
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    • Magglio Ordonez
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    • Other ( Please post name in thread )
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It would be weird though if 50 years from now when my grandchildren view Verlander and Cabrera the same way I view Kaline and say Horton that there's no statues from this era. I understand what Yoop is trying to say though, with the way baseball works these days its hard to find a loyal player who stays with the same team from the time he's drafted to the time he retires.
Yeah, 10 years is going to be a long stretch, in this era.
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I'll take Verlander over Cabrera, not because I think Cabrera isn't in fact a more singular talent, and acknowledging that a pitcher is more likely to get hurt, but because to me, Verlander has already exhibited the discipline and mental toughness to go with his talent that is needed to keep winning long term. In a couple years Cabby may have changed my mind, but he is still too close to having been a player with a questionable future.

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I'll take Verlander over Cabrera, not because I think Cabrera isn't in fact a more singular talent, and acknowledging that a pitcher is more likely to get hurt, but because to me, Verlander has already exhibited the discipline and mental toughness to go with his talent that is needed to keep winning long term. In a couple years Cabby may have changed my mind, but he is still too close to having been a player with a questionable future.

I have the same feeling with Cabrera. I think he will most certainly get to 500HR and is very capable of getting 600 HOWEVER I worry about his weight and the shape he will be in after say another... 5 years.

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I understand some people's concern about Cabrera and possible health problems down the line, but personally I think by time any big health problems come up around he could already be well on his way into Cooperstown. Yes if health problems hit him bad he might limp into the hall of fame or it could take more than one ballot to get in. If you look at his current numbers, even if he starts with the injuries at 30-31 (3 seasons from now), he could have 2,000 hits and just under 400 home runs. By then if he can have a few decent years and play until he is in his late 30's his numbers are worthy. Of course this is just my take on it.

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I understand some people's concern about Cabrera and possible health problems down the line, but personally I think by time any big health problems come up around he could already be well on his way into Cooperstown. Yes if health problems hit him bad he might limp into the hall of fame or it could take more than one ballot to get in. If you look at his current numbers, even if he starts with the injuries at 30-31 (3 seasons from now), he could have 2,000 hits and just under 400 home runs. By then if he can have a few decent years and play until he is in his late 30's his numbers are worthy. Of course this is just my take on it.

The question is not whether he will make it into the hall of fame but rather the question is will he get a statue? Theres a lot of people who are HOFS that played primarily with the tigers but didnt start here and dont have a statue. Since he started in FLA he will have to reach ungodly milestones like 600 HR, 1800 RBI, 3000 Hits and a .300+ average, a WS ring, and a/some MVPS to get one. These things are all very achievable forn him if he maintains himself, however that is where the question is raised, can he maintain himself?

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thinking of some other players who fell off quickly, Jimmie Foxx comes to mind, his numbers were great but he fell off after age 33, something about a drinking problem, I think. Yeah Jimmie Foxx was better than Cabrera (he won 3 MVP's) I could see Cabrera done by 33, but I think it's unlikely. I think even if he becomes injury plagued he still plays until at least 36.

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The question is not whether he will make it into the hall of fame but rather the question is will he get a statue? Theres a lot of people who are HOFS that played primarily with the tigers but didnt start here. Since he started in FLA he will have to reach ungodly milestones like 600 HR, 1800 RBI, 3000 Hits and a .300+ average, a WS ring, a/some MVPS. These things are all very achievable forn him if he maintains himself, however that is where the question is raised, can he maintain himself?

Personally for the Tigers to give anyone a statue they need to be at least borderline Hall of famers, and most likely need to be in the HOF. Being a fan favorite also helps a lot. Like I could see Whittaker and Trammell getting a statue, they are close enough to the HOF standard and were loved by the fans.

With Cabrera yes injuries could derail him but I think his current numbers are well above a hall of fame pace and he is well on his way to reaching those numbers. Personally I think people are making too much of the "if he maintains himself thing".

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Sam Crawford and Harry Heilmann need statues first and foremost. Both Hall of Famers who played the vast majority of their careers with the Tigers. In addition to Heilmann's HOF Tiger playing career, he also was their radio play-by-play man for nearly 20 years. As time goes on, less people even know who guys like that were, and statues would be a nice way to spur awareness for new generations.

Sparky Anderson could be argued because he's in the HOF, managed the '84 WS champs and managed a long time in Detroit. But a lot of people will think of him as a Red first, which he's also pictured as on his HOF plaque. Other HOFers such as George Kell and Jim Bunning had nice careers as Tigers, but also played a lot for other teams, as well.

As far as the most likely of the current players, it has to be Cabrera first and Verlander second, but they have a long way to go even to reach the statures of say, Whitaker, Trammell, Morris, Lolich, etc. Not HOFers, but all Tiger legends.

My criteria would be HOF and the majority of the career as a Tiger (with Horton as a worthy exception). The Tigers are pretty conservative with ultimate honor stuff like retiring numbers and building statues and I think that's a pretty good policy. Crawford and Heilmann are really overdue, though.

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Personally for the Tigers to give anyone a statue they need to be at least borderline Hall of famers, and most likely need to be in the HOF. Being a fan favorite also helps a lot. Like I could see Whittaker and Trammell getting a statue, they are close enough to the HOF standard and were loved by the fans.

With Cabrera yes injuries could derail him but I think his current numbers are well above a hall of fame pace and he is well on his way to reaching those numbers. Personally I think people are making too much of the "if he maintains himself thing".

Yea, if he keeps it up than hes a top 10 great, no question. But you just dont know. Its not one of those things thats easy to predict. Theres so many variables that float around a player off the field that determine his effectivness on it ( Dope,Steroids,Alchohal, any Misbehavior really, diet, personal life ect... ). With his previous alchohal battles and history of being over weight, theres two big " What ifs" that pop up already. The only 2 people that really have any idea are Miguel and god himself.

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The next statue needs to be Lou & Tram, a combo statue of the duo starting the front end of a double play at second base. No current Tiger deserves recognition. Verlander & Cabrera are the closest bets, but are certainly no sure shots right now or in a few years.

I do have a recommendation to enhance Kaline's statue during ballgames. We've seen the tigers on the score board have thier eyes lit up green for Tiger runs scored and heard the growl in the background. Well, perhaps for errors, Kaline's head could nod downward in frustration with a nice "aw, ****!" over the PA?

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