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I don't know...should we bring him back? He'd be exactly what we need to be honest. Might even get him on the cheap.

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He just isn't what he used to be. Despite how much I like him, I still have to pass.

This team needs to get younger, not older and more molasses-like.

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As much as I liked him while he was here, his best days are behind him. Also, if he did come back, he'd have to play the role he used to, which if I remember correctly, he didn't want to be just a defensive player anymore.

Besides, he might just retire because he's been hurt so much the last few years.

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3 years later I think he'd be pretty resigned to doing whatever was asked of him. Basically 15 mins off the bench, bringing energy, defense and rebounding. Plus it'd give him a chance to end his career here in Detroit.

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I'd love to see Ben come back and retire here, but he'd have to come real cheap and realize that he's only going to get about 15 minutes per game for rebounding/defense. But, I don't think it solves our problems completely. We'd still need to trade Rip for a Center.

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I say bring him back for the minimum. He's a warm body which, at this point, is good enough for this team. He could always be released later.

Edited by azzurri

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I'd rather see Cheikh Samb back as a project part 2 before we brought Ben back. I loved Ben as a Piston but he's getting too old to make up for his small size. To think some people were upset the Joe didn't spend mad money on him when Chicago signed him.

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I would take him back real cheap. He would be a great guy to have to mentor CV, if Charlie would listen.

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The article;

I couldn't find the other link, but he was quoted on the news tonight about wanting to come back to Detroit for the MLE.

NBA.com: Player News

"Update: A buyout of Wallace's contract is in the works for $10 million of the $14 million he is owed this season, the Arizona Republic.

Analysis: Wallace was acquired with Sasha Pavlovic for Shaquille O'Neal in late June. The trade could wind up saving Phoenix $18 million in payroll and taxes with a Wallace buyout and a likely waiving of Pavlovic, whose deal is partially guaranteed."

I would love to have Ben's energy back, even if he's lost a step. Plus, he's such a stubborn player, who came up thru a small college, I think he would love to show everyone they were wrong. Plus? The Pistons NEED a big man. Who do we start? Brown?

Good luck with that!

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I think he would love to show everyone they were wrong. Plus? The Pistons NEED a big man. Who do we start? Brown?

Good luck with that!

I wish they were wrong, but IMHO, it is over for him.

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Ben Wallace considers return to Pistons | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Ben Wallace considers return to Pistons

Chris McCosky / The Detroit News

Add another name -- a familiar name -- to the list of candidates to bolster the Pistons' thin frontcourt.

Former Piston Ben Wallace accepted a $10 million buyout from the Suns on Tuesday. If he clears waivers, he will be an unrestricted free agent.

Wallace indicated at the end of last season he would consider retirement because of his age (35) and lingering injuries. But, according to sources, Wallace is considering trying to play at least one more season and has reached out to the Pistons.

He still owns a home in Oakland County.

The Pistons have $3.5 million still available under the salary cap. In taking the buyout, Wallace left $4 million still on the table in Phoenix. (The final year of his contract was worth $14 million.)

The Pistons likely would offer Wallace the veteran's minimum ($1.3 million, which does not count against the cap).

Pistons president Joe Dumars, who is considering several options, would not comment on the possibility of bringing Wallace back.

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I've been gone on vacation so this is my first time on the board in a week....

I have no misconceptions of what Ben would be. If all other venues for his type of player fails, why not? He's not going to start (barring injuries) and he will provide you some rebounding and occasional sparks of defensive play. He's beyond his best years without a doubt.

This team probably isn't going to contend anytime next year. Ben works as a good band-aid for a year and probably will come cheap. I have no clue how good a mentor he would or would not be. But why not bring him back? If his name was Josh Schmuck his signing probably wouldn't create any extreme thoughts one way or the other.

I'm not looking for him to be old Ben. Just a guy that fills a role.

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1. This team is going to have problems down low no matter what.

2. I am getting less confident that they will find an adequate big to start the season.

3. In a year of transition maybe a bit of harmless nostalgia as a way to send one of the best Pistons ever out on top is a good thing.

4. Whose progress would he be impeding exactly?

5. Signing him for the Vet minimum has no cap implications.

6. Bring him back.

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Never mind for a minute his total inability to play anymore. He whines, bitches, moans, complains, and refuses to go into games when told to. He did all of that on a 50+ win team. How will he react on a .500 team? Not someone I want around the young guys.

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Never mind for a minute his total inability to play anymore. He whines, bitches, moans, complains, and refuses to go into games when told to. He did all of that on a 50+ win team. How will he react on a .500 team? Not someone I want around the young guys.

At least you are consistent, D. (Given what you've said about Rip.) Ben was practically waging open warfare with Flip during the Conference Finals and then headed off to Chicago. When asked by the Bulls to take a leadership role he wore a head band and said it was time for the young guys. This all in the first few weeks of his big fat contract.

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i'm so confused...didn't you back Ben when he was bitching and moaning and it was all Flips fault?

Anyway, 4 years later we need someone to come off the bench, play D and rebound. Ben can do that for 15 mins a game better than anyone else available right now.

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i'm so confused...didn't you back Ben when he was bitching and moaning and it was all Flips fault?

Anyway, 4 years later we need someone to come off the bench, play D and rebound. Ben can do that for 15 mins a game better than anyone else available right now.

I agreed with him on what was wrong. I totally disagreed on how he handled it. Two very different things.

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Never mind for a minute his total inability to play anymore. He whines, bitches, moans, complains, and refuses to go into games when told to. He did all of that on a 50+ win team. How will he react on a .500 team? Not someone I want around the young guys.

This could be a concern. I hear all this talk he'll be a team player that can help help mentor someone. Mentor who? And you have to wonder if he's really the type of person that can do that.

For the minimum he's a reasonable last option. And the Pistons are getting close to that right now. It's worth looking into. And remember, there's probably no bigger Ben fan here than me.

I don't think he's totally unable to play any more, but he's certainly not the Ben that left here. I wouldn't sign him just to sign him, but I wouldn't shy away from it either. I think a lot is being made out of this because it's Ben on both sides. If his name was John Schmuck, the extremes wouldn't be addressed as much as they are here or out in public.

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I like Schmuck. I think he brings good energy, and a pretty good basketball IQ. I just worry about his knees, even though he is only 26. John Schmuck could be a good player for the Pistons, but his injury concerns might be the deciding factor. We haven't had a player like Schmuck in a while. He just swallows rebounds. Plus he has a meanstreak, and is good defensively.

Actually, what did Schmuck make last season in Vancouver? Wasn't it like 2 million? Since he's so injury prone, and went to Country Day don't you think he'd come here for the Veteran minimum? Remember he averaged 11.2 points and 8 rebounds, if you average him out to starter minutes.

Hmm. That is something to consider, maybe I'll make a thread on this.

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