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The Free Press recently spoke with Josh Helmholdt, a writer for The Wolverine (Michigan's site on rivals.com). We discussed blue-chip recruit Terrelle Pryor and whether the dual-threat quarterback is getting too much hype.

Great, as I suspected. In four years, we can all sit around and talk about what NFL team is going to take a chance on converting Pryor to WR.

I have no doubt he'll help us win games on the collegiate level, but it's nice to graduate players to the NFL too. Other than Shaun King, you can't say much for RR in developing guys for the next level...

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By the way, did anyone else watch the Pryor video clip from the all-star game? I think it is on Rivals.com. Other than the one pass, it looks like he wants to run on every snap. He definately looked good in that aspect, but I'd like to have seen a bit more with the arm.

I saw a post on mgoblog that had a lot of throws in it. The passes were mostly deep balls down the sidelines though - not many over the middle bullets. He does remind me of Vince Young quite a bit. Hopefully (if he goes to U of M) they can refine his passing ability.

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Great, as I suspected. In four years, we can all sit around and talk about what NFL team is going to take a chance on converting Pryor to WR.

I have no doubt he'll help us win games on the collegiate level, but it's nice to graduate players to the NFL too. Other than Shaun King, you can't say much for RR in developing guys for the next level...

U-M has sent a lot of players to the next level in the last 20 years. What do they have to show for it? 1/2 a national championship. If RR can make this team a title contender, I don't care if the success level of the players in the NFL is negligible. I'm a U-M fan first and foremost.

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By the way, did anyone else watch the Pryor video clip from the all-star game? I think it is on Rivals.com. Other than the one pass, it looks like he wants to run on every snap. He definately looked good in that aspect, but I'd like to have seen a bit more with the arm.

I was at the Army game. Yes, he looks to run first. Why shouldn't a QB and coaches run an offense to a players strengths? Anyway, he showed nice touch and great vision. His passes weren't amazing, but they were effective considering the offense the East squad was running.

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I was at the Army game. Yes, he looks to run first. Why shouldn't a QB and coaches run an offense to a players strengths? Anyway, he showed nice touch and great vision. His passes weren't amazing, but they were effective considering the offense the East squad was running.

I didn't say that they shouldn't modify their offense to accomodate a player's strength.

The only pass that I saw on the highlights, didn't show much touch or vision (unless you mean vision in terms of running with the ball, which he certainly has). If I recall correctly, he was rolling out and then threw all the way back across the field. A dangerous throw to begin with, but it showed me nothing more than being able to huck it a long ways. Granted it was one pass, but I would have liked to have seen a lot more.

U-M has sent a lot of players to the next level in the last 20 years. What do they have to show for it? 1/2 a national championship. If RR can make this team a title contender, I don't care if the success level of the players in the NFL is negligible. I'm a U-M fan first and foremost.

WVU has zero championships under RR. There's nothing to say that they will contend more under RR than they did under Carr. And I'm not saying that we can't be better under RR, I hope we are. But there's nothing to say we can't compete and send players onto the NFL at the same time.

And while you may not care about graduating players to the NFL, some of us do. It's a nice consolation prize and one that keeps on giving, in terms of promoting the program and making high school players want to go to UM.

I smile every time I see Tom Brady's face posted up on the TV with the college he attended. It's great publicity.

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In four years, we can all sit around and talk about what NFL team is going to take a chance on converting Pryor to WR.

Who cares? Rich Rodriguez was brought in to coach the Michigan football team, not an NFL minor league team.

And I am not naive, I know some kids look at college as a stepping stone to the NFL, but not every kid is like Ryan Mallet, who seems to only think of getting to the NFL. Had he stayed, he would have quickly learned that the spread has many forms, obviously - much like Mallet - you haven't grasped this concept yet, as it's not all about having/needing a mobile QB. Those damn New England Patriots run a version of the spread, look how much running they do, and how .. mobile their QB is? And come to think of it, speaking of the NFL, where did their QB go to college...

I smile every time I see Tom Brady's face posted up on the TV with the college he attended.

Oh, yeah... That's right.

Now from what I have read, one thing seems pretty clear; Rich Rodriguez seems like a very smart guy, so I am sure he will show the country many different looks over the years, not just that of the "mobile QB/spread offense. But at this point, it's a simple wait and see process, is all...

I have no doubt he'll help us win games on the collegiate level, but it's nice to graduate players to the NFL too.

I understand this, being we all take pride in the QB streak at Michigan, going to the NFL, which Henne should no doubt continue...

Only time will tell, however, on if that streak ever really ends:)

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Mallett's dad has denied the Arkansas story...as much as I don't like Mallett, I like his dad less. He's an enabler, and his son is a quitter.

When did he quit? His coach is the one who quit.

The guy wants to play for coaches that he likes and a system that will give him a shot to better succeed, not to mention a chance at the NFL, I don't blame him.

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When did he quit? His coach is the one who quit.

The guy wants to play for coaches that he likes and a system that will give him a shot to better succeed, not to mention a chance at the NFL, I don't blame him.

I agree. I would have transferred if I was in the same position.

I do think he probably needed to have a better plan in place prior to leaving UM. If he has ruled out UCLA because it's too far from Texas, then he is working with a pretty limited geographical area. To find a good program that will need a starting QB in 2009 and utilizes a pro-style offense, may be difficult. He might have just been better off staying at UM.

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I didn't want to start a new Pryor thread, so I'll just add to this one...

Pryor adds LSU, sets Michigan trip

Vaunted quarterback will visit Ann Arbor on Jan. 18

The nation's No. 1 player, Jeannette, Pa., quarterback Terrelle Pryor, has had quite a busy week since the U.S. Army All American Bowl. He's added a recruiting mentor, he's shuffled a few of his official visit dates and he's now interested in a new team. Here's the latest on Pryor.

"I'm taking my official visit to Michigan on Jan. 18, that's this upcoming weekend," he said. "I was supposed to go to Penn State but that's changed. I'm not really sure where I'm going on Jan. 25 and if I'll even take a visit in February. Right now it's Michigan as the only one scheduled."

Pryor has been allowing his new mentor, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Charlie Batch, to help with the process now that it is getting more hectic.

"I've had to get a second cell phone because things have been so crazy," said Pryor. "It's really getting busy now."

Pryor has already visited Ohio State and is considering Florida, Oregon and now LSU for an official visit on Jan. 25 -- and that could be his last visit.

"LSU is new," he said. "Charlie spoke to them and then I spoke to coach Gary Crowton and I liked a lot of what he was saying. I wouldn't say they're as high up as the others because I am just learning about them, but I like what they're talking about in changing the offense for me."

Crowton was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Oregon while Dennis Dixon was emerging, so he has utilized the spread offense. Pryor also likes what he's hearing from Oregon.

"They've been saying some good things as well," he said. "Oregon has had me interested for a little while now. Florida is in there as well, and they obviously run a quarterback-friendly offense."

As for Penn State, the school Pryor has been to the most, he's still not sure where the Nittany Lions stand.

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