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I'm going to be purchasing a system pretty soon and am soliciting advice and any online resources to help me.

I don't have expensive needs. My TV is only 27 inches and my room is not that big. Basically I just want it because I wanted a new stereo for the living room and figured I might as well take advantage of the surround system capabilities at the same time. When the time comes to get a 46 inch HDTV or whatever I'll gladly spend the extra 6-7 hundred bucks for a nice system.

What exactly should I pay attention to? Does the total watts really matter? Would I notice a differnce in 250 vs. 600? 5.1 or 6.1? Any advice on which models do not play DVD-R or RW discs? I see disclaimers on some models.

I have digital cable and one thing I'd really like to do is be able to get the digital music choice channels to come through the stereo speakers. I'd also like to add more speakers through the floor to the basement if I wanted to. Is there a feature or option I'd have to look out for with that?

Assume I know nothing about this topic.

Really the most I'd like to spend is about 400 total. I saw a system for less than $200 with a DVD player.

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4 minutes ago, Shelton said:

You could have probably just started a new thread.

How's that 27 inch tv treating you, oblong? Digital cable sounds fancy.

Wow. I didn't even realize how old this was. I thought we had a home theater thread in the last year or two. 

I bet he gets ESPN2! Probably not in HD but good enough! 

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Finally got everything all hooked up. In the middle of cutting, connecting, and hiding wires, I realized they forgot to give me the cable for my Sub. So I had to drive all the way back to get it. Now I finally have everything hooked. Just when I couldn't wait any longer to finally fire this baby up and give it a listen, there's a 30 minute firmware update. 

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Ha, that's funny.  I did get a system at that time.... used it a few times.... then got tired of having it around.  I had visions of mounting speakers on the walls and all that... once I had it and used it the need went away to do that.

That 27" TV is still used in our basement in our new house. 

I especially like the references to it being able to play DVD-R... discs.  I have no idea where any of those discs are right now.  They've all been transferred to our cloud.

The main driver to this at the time was being able to listen to Tiger games around the house and to listen to the radio.   

Now I just have several bluetooth speakers and a soundbar.  Never listen to the radio.  Satellite or our own music.  MLB At bat takes care of needing the radio to listen to ballgames.

Technology.  Did they have cable channels in HD in 2004?  

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On 10/12/2004 at 2:50 PM, Oblong said:

I'm going to be purchasing a system pretty soon and am soliciting advice and any online resources to help me.

I don't have expensive needs. My TV is only 27 inches and my room is not that big. Basically I just want it because I wanted a new stereo for the living room and figured I might as well take advantage of the surround system capabilities at the same time. When the time comes to get a 46 inch HDTV or whatever I'll gladly spend the extra 6-7 hundred bucks for a nice system.

What exactly should I pay attention to? Does the total watts really matter? Would I notice a differnce in 250 vs. 600? 5.1 or 6.1? Any advice on which models do not play DVD-R or RW discs? I see disclaimers on some models.

I have digital cable and one thing I'd really like to do is be able to get the digital music choice channels to come through the stereo speakers. I'd also like to add more speakers through the floor to the basement if I wanted to. Is there a feature or option I'd have to look out for with that?

Assume I know nothing about this topic.

Really the most I'd like to spend is about 400 total. I saw a system for less than $200 with a DVD player.

Ooooh, DVDs! Fancy and schmancy!

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Started in 2004, bumped in 2016 and again in the FUTURE...2021.

Looking to get a one and done system for the house.  Sick of buying non powered center channel with sub sets from Vizio for 100.00 and not being able to hear anything when the kids get loud no matter how high I turn it up...maybe I am just going deaf, whatever.

Any audiophiles in the house?  Have my eye on a Klipsch system.  Already have a decent Sony receiver..I know it is not a Denon or an Onkyo, but I think it will serve the purpose just fine.

Also where the **** is Antrat?  He been gone too long.

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40 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

Started in 2004, bumped in 2016 and again in the FUTURE...2021.

Looking to get a one and done system for the house.  Sick of buying non powered center channel with sub sets from Vizio for 100.00 and not being able to hear anything when the kids get loud no matter how high I turn it up...maybe I am just going deaf, whatever.

Any audiophiles in the house?  Have my eye on a Klipsch system.  Already have a decent Sony receiver..I know it is not a Denon or an Onkyo, but I think it will serve the purpose just fine.

Also where the **** is Antrat?  He been gone too long.

In inverse order.

Rat posted just this week.

I've have two sets of earbud sets by Klipsch and at least for that product I think their performance/value is excellent. The older hardwire set is extraordinarily good, the wireless set not quite as impressive at the bottom end but still quite good,  I have been looking around at floor standing speaker systems myself for the 1st time in long time but have not gotten as far as going to listen to anything. Klipsch's room sized stuff is mostly 3 way with ported bass which is pretty standard now I guess. Does not require massive amps or anything.

Keep us posted on your progress.

 

 

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I have a pretty sweet Martin-logan setup. Great speakers. 

Honestly, if I were to do it again, I'd go with Sonos. I have them at my shop. You can put them in any room in the house and they just connect via wi-fi. No more running wires. I have the soundbar and 4 of the Sonos One speakers. They have a sub as well but I don't wanna **** off my neighbors. Great sound and all wireless, except you do have to plug them into an outlet of course. 

The thought of having them in the bathroom, out on the deck, pretty much everywhere with just one audio source sounds pretty good. In fact, just thinking about it makes me want to do that. Probably not quite as good as the martin-logan speakers but the convenience outweighs it I think. And they really do sound great. 

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When I moved back to Michigan I got a 65" TV for my apartment. Then when I didn't like the sound quality I went online shopping for a sound bar.... a few too many drinks later, wound up with a Yamaha 5.1 System. Pain in the *** to setup when you have no idea what you're doing, but I'll never go back. Didn't know what I was missing until I had it.

Funny to look how far things have come in 16 years.

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Klipsch are a nice speaker but they have a very unique sound.  Some people absolutely love Klipsch and some absolutely hate them.  Doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.

Not sure how easy it is to do during Covid times, but I would highly suggest going somewhere and listening to them before you buy.  Or make sure wherever you buy them from has a good return policy.  

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I have access to employee discounts through a friend so I have about 7 Bluetooth speakers laying around along with many of earbuds and a nice pair for over the head. (Think $15 for$120 buds so I just got 3, in case I lose them)  I have a soundbar that I only turn on when I watch Star Wars related things, Marvel, or stream a concert. 
 

in TV news I still hAve my 42 inch from 2009.  I am moving up to a 55 any day now.  Don’t need anything higher based on the room the TV is in. Tech reaches a point where I really can’t tell the difference.   

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9 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Klipsch are a nice speaker but they have a very unique sound.  Some people absolutely love Klipsch and some absolutely hate them.  Doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.

Not sure how easy it is to do during Covid times, but I would highly suggest going somewhere and listening to them before you buy.  Or make sure wherever you buy them from has a good return policy.  

also a good idea if possible to try to listen to a speaker system in a room roughly the size/shape you are going to put it in. You also need to think about things like which compromises you care about and which you don't. Something with a physically large set of radiators, like a large multi-element cabinet or especially electro-statics  like Yoda's Martin Logan can be stunning when you can sit in the target zone but if you have a room with mixed furniture  or where you are just constrained in where you put them or that just has a poor configuration maybe you may be as happy overall with something that doesn't image as precisely. Almost every kind of speaker compromises something - at least until you get to really stratospheric prices. You can save some green once you decide some things are less important to you.

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25 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Klipsch are a nice speaker but they have a very unique sound

Low strings - cello, bass, double bass, need very tight base to sound true and that has never been the strong point for any kind of ported bass. But the nature of modern pop music has really driven that concern strictly to the audiophile market. For classical music acoustic suspension and then electrostatic at the high end were better choices. AS  - which has gone by the wayside today, also in general requires requires a larger amp than most people already have. but with electrostatics you can have fragility issues if you have animals/small kids - they also can be subject to aging effects -  but then again I've had to have my AS woofers re-coned after the foam suspends give  it up.

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17 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

In inverse order.

Rat posted just this week.

I've have two sets of earbud sets by Klipsch and at least for that product I think their performance/value is excellent. The older hardwire set is extraordinarily good, the wireless set not quite as impressive at the bottom end but still quite good,  I have been looking around at floor standing speaker systems myself for the 1st time in long time but have not gotten as far as going to listen to anything. Klipsch's room sized stuff is mostly 3 way with ported bass which is pretty standard now I guess. Does not require massive amps or anything.

Keep us posted on your progress.

 

 

I have not seen him around.  Weird.  Must be posting in threads I am not following.  I keep hearing great things about the Klipsch system.  I am not getting crazy and going for the 5-6k set, but they have a good floor standing/wired system with a sub for about 1200 I have my eye on.  I used to be HUGE into sound, for the car for the apartment etc.  I actually have a crap load of old speakers laying around that I am using in the basement, garage etc.  

The receiver I have has been sitting in my basement in a box for years...it was one of the first to have bluetooth connectivity and has HDMI ports in the back.  I have a couple other older ones, but they do not have any of the new connection ports.

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13 hours ago, Yoda said:

I have a pretty sweet Martin-logan setup. Great speakers. 

Honestly, if I were to do it again, I'd go with Sonos. I have them at my shop. You can put them in any room in the house and they just connect via wi-fi. No more running wires. I have the soundbar and 4 of the Sonos One speakers. They have a sub as well but I don't wanna **** off my neighbors. Great sound and all wireless, except you do have to plug them into an outlet of course. 

The thought of having them in the bathroom, out on the deck, pretty much everywhere with just one audio source sounds pretty good. In fact, just thinking about it makes me want to do that. Probably not quite as good as the martin-logan speakers but the convenience outweighs it I think. And they really do sound great. 

I looked at Sonos.  We already have a couple wifi speakers we use when we go outside or just move around the house as needed.  Running wires is a pain, but you cannot beat the sound/connectivity.  I kind of want to run all the wires, hard wire in some plugs up in the ceiling in the corners and just be done with it.  I hate seeing wires hanging from a ceiling, no matter how well they are hidden by trim.

I have a couple Vizio soundbars that are just not cutting it in the sound department for me.  We have good decent size TV's and these crappy low rate sound bars.  My wife is going to kill me, but I think I am just going to order them and be done with it.  Another sound bar to add to the closet for later use in the kids room when they get older or something.

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12 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Klipsch are a nice speaker but they have a very unique sound.  Some people absolutely love Klipsch and some absolutely hate them.  Doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.

Not sure how easy it is to do during Covid times, but I would highly suggest going somewhere and listening to them before you buy.  Or make sure wherever you buy them from has a good return policy.  

That is interesting to hear.  Clarity and a good low end is what I like.  I want to be able to hear dialogue in a movie and feel the thrum of the x wing flying by.  I get the thrum now with the sub, but the dialogue is a big issue for me.  Those sound bars, at least the cheap vizio ones I keep stupidly buying, just do not have good high end for dialogue.

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15 hours ago, Yoda said:

Honestly, if I were to do it again, I'd go with Sonos. I have them at my shop. You can put them in any room in the house and they just connect via wi-fi. No more running wires. I have the soundbar and 4 of the Sonos One speakers. They have a sub as well but I don't wanna **** off my neighbors. Great sound and all wireless, except you do have to plug them into an outlet of course. 

Love Sonos!  I upgraded a few of my older models this spring to get them on the new platform and look to upgrade my older basement models soon, which are Play:3s.  I have a Denon AV receiver hooked up to my basement TV, and I'm considering replacing that with a new Sonos sound bar to simplify my basement entertainment setup.  As much as I like the fancy stereo system, I hate having to deal with all the settings and remotes just to watch a show or movie.  I went simple on the setup in my living room and enjoy that so much more.

The Sonos Move  is also great for taking your sound to areas where you don't have a Sonos plugged in.

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42 minutes ago, MotownWebGuy said:

Love Sonos!  I upgraded a few of my older models this spring to get them on the new platform and look to upgrade my older basement models soon, which are Play:3s.  I have a Denon AV receiver hooked up to my basement TV, and I'm considering replacing that with a new Sonos sound bar to simplify my basement entertainment setup.  As much as I like the fancy stereo system, I hate having to deal with all the settings and remotes just to watch a show or movie.  I went simple on the setup in my living room and enjoy that so much more.

The Sonos Move  is also great for taking your sound to areas where you don't have a Sonos plugged in.

I like the design of the Sonos 5 -  a two way acoustic suspension system with digital amplification capability. New school tech on old school hardware.

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2 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I like the design of the Sonos 5 -  a two way acoustic suspension system with digital amplification capability. New school tech on old school hardware.

Kind of like the fleshlight. 

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Got the set Friday and all hooked up.  Took my time running wires and using real mounts for the rear speakers, placing them perfectly.  I still need to get a small floating shelf for the center speaker and re run some of the tower speaker wires (2 sets per cabinet).  I spent the whole weekend testing the limits...they do not seem to have any.

Also it looks like the sound bar set up I had downstairs is better than the TV speakers upstairs so upgraded both TV's sound.  The surround and sub were a nice add to the upstairs TV.  Kids playing Brawhala on the PS4 after showers..you can feel some of those hits!

Good sound has always been something I loved.  

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