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15 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Yeah I saw that yesterday, definitely not his best work. To me nothing tops his Kiper and Gruden.

There was a skit he did a while back with Stephen A Smith that was pure gold. I believe Caliendo was Stephen B Smith and they debated each other. 

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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

There was a skit he did a while back with Stephen A Smith that was pure gold. I believe Caliendo was Stephen B Smith and they debated each other. 

Yeah that is a good one but this is still my favorite. The way he does the head nod after he makes his point is so spot on.

Also love how he debates McShay over the benefits of iced coffee. 

 

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The Lions have done a lot wrong. But none of that relates to Calvin Johnson.

He had his chance to cut ties and go play for the Patriots or Cowboys or whoever he wanted. He signed a record extension instead. The franchise history sucks, but it sucked when he signed the extension too. He can be salty all he wants that he never won ****. That does not make it the Ford family's fault, the Lions franchise fault, or anyone's fault but Calvin's that he signed a deal he regrets.

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15 minutes ago, Passepartout said:

Calvin is a class act. But really he remained loyal to the Lions despite regretting the extension. Even though it is really the fault on both sides.

How is any fault on the side of the Lions? How did Calvin Johnson stay loyal? They made him the highest paid receiver. They gave him a bonus in exchange he play 7 years for the Lions. He chose to quit. He doesn't get to keep the bonus. If the Lions cut him, he would expect the Lions pay him everything he was guaranteed. Why is it different when a player terminates the contract?

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58 minutes ago, Passepartout said:

Calvin is a class act. But really he remained loyal to the Lions despite regretting the extension. Even though it is really the fault on both sides.

What?

There is nothing he did in his retirement that made him a class act. 

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Watched Calvin's HOF remarks. He all but said he left the game due to pain (i.e., not losing, not the franchise or ownership, but pain).

I can't help but feel his pouty stunt about this money is tainting his legacy. The team recovered a fraction of what they could have after he bailed on a long-term contract in its infancy. If I signed a deal with an employer out of school who said they'd pay off $50k of my student loans, but if I left before five years I had to re-pay it, and then when I left after two they asked for $10k, I don't think I'd be nearly as upset with that company as he is.

Let alone that in this analogy, the company then tells me if I just show up at a few events they'll give me the $10k back and I act as if it's an insult.

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The Lions simply cannot just cut him a check either since it's against league rules so what does he want? Even if they could, I doubt that would be enough. I'm not sure why the Lions are even trying anymore to repair the relationship. We've moved on. I don't care if he announces a Lions draft pick. 

I also don't believe he ever requested a trade. He announced his retirement on March 8th. He probably told the Lions even sooner. That's before free agency or the draft. The Lions had a new GM so if he did ask for a trade he didn't give them much time. If he really wanted to play and wanted to be traded, he would have held out of training camp and demanded a trade. 

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I have zero sympathy for the most pathetic franchise in professional sports history and feel for Calvin. Imagine working for a company where your 401k constantly when down and never up, turnover was high and you never had continuity with a team of people because they were gone after a year, your bosses were ignorant and unqualified for the positions they held, and the owner of the company new all of this was going on and out of sheer incompetence let it continue. Imagine you watch one idiotic boss after another tell you what to do, meanwhile you continue to drown and fail under their "leadership". How many of you after 10 years with a company, watching this go on, would keep your chin up and have a positive attitude each time you went into work?

I get it, Calvin gets paid tens-of-millions of dollars, not counting endorsements, that the rest of us in a corporate setting don't get. That said, he's still a human being and trying to stay loyal to a company (or team in this case) like the Lions has to be taxing and exhausting for anyone, millionaire or otherwise.

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2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I have zero sympathy for the most pathetic franchise in professional sports history and feel for Calvin. Imagine working for a company where your 401k constantly when down and never up, turnover was high and you never had continuity with a team of people because they were gone after a year, your bosses were ignorant and unqualified for the positions they held, and the owner of the company new all of this was going on and out of sheer incompetence let it continue. Imagine you watch idiot boss after idiot tell you what to do meanwhile you continue to drown and fail. How many of you after 10 years with a company, watching this go on, would keep your chin up and have a positive attitude each time you went into work?

calvin johnson had about $60 million reasons to keep his head up.

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Just now, Buddha said:

calvin johnson had about $60 million reasons to keep his head up.

He's still a human being who has feelings like the rest of us. It has to be exhausting and exacerbating to play for this level of futility year-after-year and still maintain loyalty to the team who brought you to the dance. Would anyone be happier if Calvin said EFF THIS after his rookie deal was up and signed somewhere else?

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1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

He's still a human being who has feelings like the rest of us. It has to be exhausting and exacerbating to play for this level of futility year-after-year and still maintain loyalty to the team who brought you to the dance. Would anyone be happier if Calvin said EFF THIS after his rookie deal was up and signed somewhere else?

i wouldnt be happier, but if calvin wanted to do that he should have done it.  he certainly could have done that, but instead he chose to sign extensions with the lions.

i have sympathy for all professional football players because the sport is so brutal and teams can cut you as soon as you get hurt or your performance declines.  but johnson got a huge payday from the lions and they were within their rights to get that money back if he didnt fulfill the contract.

if i were the lions, i probably wouldnt have done what they did to calvin (and barry) but thems the rules.  dont like?  change the rules or sign a better contract.

they offered him millions of dollars to "make it right" and he turned them down.  he should stop complaining about it and move on or take the free money.

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1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I have zero sympathy for the most pathetic franchise in professional sports history and feel for Calvin. Imagine working for a company where your 401k constantly when down and never up, turnover was high and you never had continuity with a team of people because they were gone after a year, your bosses were ignorant and unqualified for the positions they held, and the owner of the company new all of this was going on and out of sheer incompetence let it continue. Imagine you watch one idiotic boss after another tell you what to do, meanwhile you continue to drown and fail under their "leadership". How many of you after 10 years with a company, watching this go on, would keep your chin up and have a positive attitude each time you went into work?

I get it, Calvin gets paid tens-of-millions of dollars, not counting endorsements, that the rest of us in a corporate setting don't get. That said, he's still a human being and trying to stay loyal to a company (or team in this case) like the Lions has to be taxing and exhausting for anyone, millionaire or otherwise.

Imagine knowing all this and still committing to the team for 7 years when there were 31 other teams who would have gladly welcomed his services. No one is criticizing him for retiring. The issue is, he still wants to get paid for work he didn't do. Would you retire from a company and still expect the company to pay a portion of your salary for the next three years? Not to mention the pension he receives from the NFL? This literally has nothing to do with loyalty. He Wants the Lions to pay him for work he didn't do. 

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