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Who would you rather Trade Mathew Boyd For?


Who would you most trade Boyd for?  

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  1. 1. Would you trade Boyd for Ronny Mauricio of the Mets?

    • Ronny Mauricio
      3
    • Nolan Gorman
      5
    • Keibert Ruiz
      1
    • Brice Turang
      1
    • None of the Above
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1 hour ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Torres war 1.1

Boyd war 1.1

For all the grief taken for that at the time and al continues to take Boyd and Torres continue to out up identical War numbers.

Sure he got a lot of grief for it at the time.  Torres was looked upon by many as on the way up from a 3.6 WAR at age 21 and 3.0 AR at age 22  Boyd had a 2.1 WAR at 27 and 3.3 WAR at 28.  There was reason to believe that Torres had some more improvement yet and Boyd was at his peak.  Plus cost and controllable years and all of that factor in as well.

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1 hour ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Torres war 1.1

Boyd war 1.1

For all the grief taken for that at the time and al continues to take Boyd and Torres continue to out up identical War numbers.

Yeah - it's not likely he will ever live up the hype that preceded him. Still, he's probably got a very nice career in front of himself.

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1 hour ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Torres war 1.1

Boyd war 1.1

For all the grief taken for that at the time and al continues to take Boyd and Torres continue to out up identical War numbers.

My post was about neither Boyd nor Torres.

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I'm thinking more on a macro level. We need to get the front office acclimated to carrying more of a payroll burden if this team is to ever get better. So I don't care who we trade Boyd for so long as they are not cheap and controllable 

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We're talking the offseason, right?

Because:

A) I don't believe we will be offered anything of significance for Boyd

B) More importantly, this is the year of Covid Recovery. All starters are required to be on board this year to handle innings distribution. Our goal is to protect Mize & Manning & Skubal... not to trade Boyd for whatever we can get. At least until this offseason.

 

At that point (the offseason)... whatever we can get that has future value. Probably a middle reliever.

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54 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Sure he got a lot of grief for it at the time.  Torres was looked upon by many as on the way up from a 3.6 WAR at age 21 and 3.0 AR at age 22  Boyd had a 2.1 WAR at 27 and 3.3 WAR at 28.  There was reason to believe that Torres had some more improvement yet and Boyd was at his peak.  Plus cost and controllable years and all of that factor in as well.

Oh I got it all, but the outcry was like he asked for trout. Clearly they thought they were similar players and it looks that was true. And remember new york Yankees are almost always overhyped. Sanchez was the next great catcher, now he's borderline non tender. Same thing for Torres, though not that extreme. He's Jeter part 2!!!! Actually he's kinsler.

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Speaking of overhyped Yankee prospects I remember Yankees fans and NY writers(and some national guys) saying Austin Jackson was going to be the next great Yankee CF, they projected him to be a better version of Bernie Williams. 

That is until they traded him to us then suddenly all his flaws were called out by the same people hyping him up before hand. 

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15 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Oh I got it all, but the outcry was like he asked for trout. Clearly they thought they were similar players and it looks that was true. And remember new york Yankees are almost always overhyped. Sanchez was the next great catcher, now he's borderline non tender. Same thing for Torres, though not that extreme. He's Jeter part 2!!!! Actually he's kinsler.

oh no!  not ian kinsler!  how horrible.

kinsler didnt even make the majors until he was 24.  torres is now 24 and in his 4th season, and has put up an ops+ of over 100 in every season he's played.

this is somehow bad?  youre using this to mock people who didnt think the yankees would ever trade that for a 27 year old (at the time) starting pitcher who was coming off the only 1/2 a season of success he'd ever had (and was bad in the second half of that season).  well, they didnt.  and they wouldnt make that trade again either.  and since the trade torres has put up more war (if you want to use war, which overrates starting pitchers who stay healthy no matter how bad or below average they are), so what was the point again?

24 year old ian kinsler's dont grow on trees.  if they did Al might have been able to pick one by now instead of leaving us with a minor league organization full of 50 shortstop jacks of all trades and masters of none.

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I guess I don't see what was so wrong about asking/hoping for a Torres like player in return. Unlike with others we traded we actually had some leverage with Boyd.  He was cheap and under control for several years so we didn't have to trade him then and at the time the SP market was dry, so much so many pundits thought Boyd was the best available.

Why not shoot for the highest offer? Maybe you'll get lucky and a desperate team will bite, if they don't just hold onto him and trade him at another time. 

Of course we all know what happened but if Avila settled and traded him for a modest return and Boyd kept on the trajectory he was setting at that time fans would still be raking him over the coals to this day.

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