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Detroit Pistons (18-40) @ Dallas Mavericks (30-26)

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Short offseason and compact schedule.  The injuries are starting to pile up.  Some big names too.

 

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6 hours ago, Casimir said:

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Detroit Pistons (18-40) @ Dallas Mavericks (30-26)

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Is that Adrian Dantley bitching to Isiah for getting him traded?

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6 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Is that Adrian Dantley bitching to Isiah for getting him traded?

Yes.  I searched for a pic of Mark Aguirre and Adrian Dantley guarding each other.  I found only one such pic.  I suspect the lack of available pictures of such is that one of the two would have had to have been playing defense to begin with.

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I stumbled upon this article and found these quotes.

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To this day, many players from the legendary Pistons team openly stood up in Dantley’s favor. Joe Dumars called Dantley ‘the best teammate he has ever played with’ and John Salley called him ‘mentor.’ Salley publicly acknowledged not only that A.D.’s role wasn’t disruptive for the team as it was later shown but quite the contrary – he was a vital part of the team and thus deserved to stay.

And this article as well.

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To an outsider’s eye, there was nothing amiss about the Pistons in early 1989. They were on pace for 60 wins, battling Cleveland for the No. 1 seed in the Eastern Conference and looking very much as if they’d get their chance to avenge the bitter Game 7 loss to the Lakers in the 1988 NBA Finals.

But Jack McCloskey’s perspective told him otherwise. The body language of the Bad Boys was worrisome. Chuck Daly tipped him off that Adrian Dantley had become sullen and both men were concerned his mood threatened to make for a toxic locker room.

McCloskey pulled Dantley aside one day after a Pistons practice. They met in the tiny officials locker room at The Palace, off the tunnel entrance, and McCloskey pressed for an explanation. Dantley demurred.

McCloskey finally told him bluntly: “Adrian, if you don’t want to talk about it, I’m going to trade you, and I’m not kidding you. I’m going to trade you. I’m not going to have you break up this team. I’m not saying you’re at fault, but you know something that I don’t know. I told him, flat out, ‘I’m going to trade you,’ and I think it was just two days later we flew down to Dallas and made the trade.”

The Feb. 15 deal stunned the NBA. There had been no rumblings that the Pistons were shopping Dantley or intent on doing anything to alter the mix of a deep and versatile roster that came within one outrageous call – the phantom foul on Bill Laimbeer in Game 6 of the ’88 Finals – of winning its first league title the previous spring. Speculation centered on a rift between Dantley and Isiah Thomas. When Dallas – to which Dantley was traded in exchange for Mark Aguirre – visited The Palace the month following the trade, Dantley spent several fraught seconds before the opening tip whispering something into Thomas’ ear as a full house watched, transfixed.

It later was reported that Dantley admitted to saying, “I’ll never forgive you for what you did to me.”

 

So, I guess that last line could be a bubble caption in that picture at the top of the thread.

I really liked Dantley's form at free throw the line.  I tried to emulate it when I was younger.

The more I think about the group of players that Daly had to deal with, the more credit I think he deserves for melding them into a cohesive unit.  The players had to play the game, but it seems like McCloskey took some risks to add talent and Daly had to figure out a way to not only get the most out of that talent but also keep guys from driving each other crazy.  Dumars, Johnson, and Edwards seemed low maintenance pieces, but the other 5 or 6 guys from the main rotation, oh boy.

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they were a better team with aguirre than dantley.

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

they were a better team with aguirre than dantley.

meh - I don't think either was a critical piece. Dantley was one-dimensional, Aguirre's biggest contribution was to play fewer minutes than Dantley and leave more time for Salley, Rodman et al.

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7 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

meh - I don't think either was a critical piece. Dantley was one-dimensional, Aguirre's biggest contribution was to play fewer minutes than Dantley and leave more time for Salley, Rodman et al.

aguirre was more athletic, taller, a better defender, and a better shooter.

dantley was a black hole on offense and too small on defense.  he was a great scorer but slowed the game down and never passed.

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

they were a better team with aguirre than dantley.

They were, especially defensively, and the team chemistry was disrupted with Dantley. He was arguing with players, he had a spat with Daly and he just seemed unhappy in the games leading up to the trade. 

The trade also allowed them to unleash Rodman which changed the complexion of the team and took them to a whole new level. He and Salley's athleticism overwhelmed the older Celtics and allowed them to keep up with the Lakers who they SHOULD have beaten twice but I digress.

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lol

LeBron James Deletes Tweet Calling for Prosecution of Columbus Cop Who Shot Knife-Wielding Teen

Even better because a few weeks ago he got into it with some soccer player and said this.

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Ibrahimovic, whose time playing for his former team, the LA Galaxy, coincided with James' first season with the Lakers, criticized James on Thursday in an interview with UEFA for Discovery+ in Sweden, saying it was a "mistake" and "doesn't look good" when James and other "famous" people get involved in politics.

"He was the same guy who said when he was back in Sweden ... because his last name wasn't a certain last name, that he felt there was some racism going on when he was out on the pitch," James said. "I speak from a very educated mind, so I'm kind of the wrong guy to actually go at because I do my homework."

I think he always said Morey wasn't educated on the things going on in China.

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12 hours ago, Buddha said:

aguirre was more athletic, taller, a better defender, and a better shooter.

dantley was a black hole on offense and too small on defense.  he was a great scorer but slowed the game down and never passed.

Curious given that McCloskey confronted Dantley directly that AD blamed Isiah for the trade. Would make you think that what AD didn't want to tell McCloskey might have been about Thomas - but then again it's not like anyone thought Isiah was any kind of choir boy.

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45 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

One of the best misses ever.

 

would that have been considered scoring in the paint for Embiid?

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