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No Bally Detroit tonight, only Dallas? Man I hate the scroll across the bottom of the screen. So far it has informed me about Red Wing trade deadline deals from a week ago and Central division faceoff leaders.

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man, what has happened to Dylan Larkin? Not even a minor presence in the 3rd of a tie game. The only time you even saw his number in that 3rd was as he went back over the board going back to the bench.

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11 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

man, what has happened to Dylan Larkin? Not even a minor presence in the 3rd of a tie game. The only time you even saw his number in that 3rd was as he went back over the board going back to the bench.

I was thinking earlier today of what a poor season he is having.

Who would the Wings' player of the year be? Erne?

Wings lose 3-2 in SO to Dallas but that point pulls the Wings to a tie with Columbus so poking out of the Central division cellar.

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The Wings may end up catching Columbus AND Chicago.

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so at his point is there really any other possibility than that Betruzzi has a back/neck spinal issue going on? I can't think of much else that would not have been a surgical candidate by now.

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20 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

man, what has happened to Dylan Larkin? Not even a minor presence in the 3rd of a tie game. The only time you even saw his number in that 3rd was as he went back over the board going back to the bench.

Terribly disappointing.

Has he gotten sick of all the losing and has decided to go the Mantha route?

Or does he just need better linemates? I'm going to guess on a WAG that it's probably this.

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43 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Terribly disappointing.

Has he gotten sick of all the losing and has decided to go the Mantha route?

Or does he just need better linemates? I'm going to guess on a WAG that it's probably this.

i guess one theory would be that he is so committed to being 'responsible' that he's lost his offensive sense, but even if that were the case you would think he wouldn't be at the bottom of the +/- list - unless you want to blame it on being shackled to Mantha most of the time. If that was the case maybe he will show some signs of of life in the remaining games.

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7 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

.... If that was the case maybe he will show some signs of of life in the remaining games.

I think if that happens it's next year if he gets better teammates.

I don't know if we have much of anyone ready on offense... maybe Veleno?

I'd also like to see Seider graduate as well and a pairing of Seider-Hronek and second pair of Lindstrom-Cholowski to try and get this rebuild moving. Better defensive play has to help the offense as well...

But how else and when is this team going to start to improve...?

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21 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

I think if that happens it's next year if he gets better teammates.

I don't know if we have much of anyone ready on offense... maybe Veleno?

I'd also like to see Seider graduate as well and a pairing of Seider-Hronek and second pair of Lindstrom-Cholowski to try and get this rebuild moving. Better defensive play has to help the offense as well...

But how else and when is this team going to start to improve...?

Is DeKeyser signed for next year? His play since he returned has been a bit of good news. In fact in general this team has gotten to where it can play decent defense - even when they are getting out shot and the play is in their end they manage force the play to the sides and limit good chances much better than the last couple of years. But there is a glaring need for better skaters and more skill on the offensive end. The contrast to the skating of the top Dallas forwards last night was pretty stark.

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It's been stark all season long in the games that I've seen...

And the defensemen annoy the crap out of me as I watch their inability to clear the zone when the opposition is NOT in Detroit's zone except for one or two guys and that's all it takes to break up our defensemen trying to initiate a pass or the offense. They get stripped or intercepted instead. Incessantly. Our goalie doesn't even know where to pass the puck when he's behind the net with it because every attempt to get it to a Detroit defender gets stripped or intercepted... again. I am thoroughly disgusted with how this team looks this season. 

I'm sick of Blashill. I want a new coach. Up and comer or someone who can mold young kids into a playoff team I don't care... Stevie-Y needs to find a better coach than this hot mess.

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17 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

I watch their inability to clear the zone when the opposition is NOT in Detroit's zone except for one or two guys and that's all it takes to break up our defensemen trying to initiate a pass or the offense. They get stripped or intercepted instead. Incessantly.

it comes down to them playing too slow, which gives the opposition time to close, either because things still do not come naturally enough and they have think too much, or because their game vision is poor, because other guys are not where they are supposed to be or because they are just slow - a combination I would think. 

Classic case last night was late in the 3rd when Dallas was pressing, their fore-checker was actually going behind the net after the Wing defenseman holding the puck - true the Wings were in no hurry to make the pass as they were probably happy to see the clock run out and take the one point, but still, going behind the opponents net to chase in that situation should  be a losing strategy that puts at least one defender behind the play on the break out pass, but it was working pretty good for the Stars!

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i think larkin has played pretty well but is just on a bad offensive team.

the wings most likely draft position at this point?  6th or 7th.

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Well, there are only 20 guys on a team. Seider, Velano, Berggren plus getting Tyler back and a couple of FA signings can turn over  1/3 of the team so it's not impossible for things to be better in the fall. I feel sort of guilty, I'm a fan but I really can't take watching this team play anything like every game.

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27 minutes ago, Buddha said:

i think larkin has played pretty well but is just on a bad offensive team.

the wings most likely draft position at this point?  6th or 7th.

5 teams worse than the Wings is hard to fathom. Tanking seems to be in at the NHL now though. Most years there is one team playing under .400. So far this year there are 4 plus two more at only .410

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23 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Well, there are only 20 guys on a team. Seider, Velano, Berggren plus getting Tyler back and a couple of FA signings can turn over  1/3 of the team so it's not impossible for things to be better in the fall. I feel sort of guilty, I'm a fan but I really can't take watching this team play anything like every game.

Is Berggren ready? McIsaac? We could bring up 3 guys from the 2018 draft to add to Zadina... Veleno just made it to Grand Rapids so he might be getting close... Get Seider up here... I'm all for a youth movement and turning the team over by 30+ %.

In fact, I'd rather they expose Stecher than Lindstrom in the Seattle draft cause I wanna go straight youth... even though Lindstrom hasn't shown much yet. 

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Wings lose by three, 5-2. But hey, the Leafs lose by three - to a team that has been ravaged by Covid for a few weeks.

 

 

 

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3 goal 1st period for the Wings against Dallas, the Stars apparently still reeling from the trauma of the 'Storm Trooper' uniforms.

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Larkin succumbs to what has probably been bothering his game - out indefinitely, and the Wings concede Bertuzzi may need surgery.

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11 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

3 goal 1st period for the Wings against Dallas, the Stars apparently still reeling from the trauma of the 'Storm Trooper' uniforms.

New guy with the 3rd goal!

 

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So now that Larkin has gone to the injured list, what will turn out to be the story on how long he has not been at 100%? Back to  the time he missed at the end of Feb?  Between the injuries, the lotteries, the inability to scout for the draft picks he's accumulated, Yzerman must feel like there was a little black cloud with his name on it waiting for him in Detroit.

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11 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

So now that Larkin has gone to the injured list, what will turn out to be the story on how long he has not been at 100%? Back to  the time he missed at the end of Feb?  Between the injuries, the lotteries, the inability to scout for the draft picks he's accumulated, Yzerman must feel like there was a little black cloud with his name on it waiting for him in Detroit.

they'll draft a bunch if swedes.

i think yzerman has set up the wings quite nicely.  but they need to get lottery luck NEXT year (or the year after), that's when there will be generational talent at the top.  not this year.

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