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11 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

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Hopefully Topps uses this as an image for a Topps Now baseball card today.

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lol Trevor Bauer, the guy who highlighted the use of sticky/tacky to increase spin.

Irony, karma, or vendetta?

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6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

His response:

 

He is probably right about baseballs being routinely taken out of play.  That was actually my first question when I saw the article.  

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13 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

He is probably right about baseballs being routinely taken out of play.  That was actually my first question when I saw the article.  

I'm sure he is, which is why I'm leaning toward vendetta.

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I'm going to guess Rosenthal doesn't call them "suspicious" for no reason. He's not a clickbait tweeter. And of course it will be everyone''s fault but Bauer and he'll be the true victim. 

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10 minutes ago, Yoda said:

I'm going to guess Rosenthal doesn't call them "suspicious" for no reason. He's not a clickbait tweeter. And of course it will be everyone''s fault but Bauer and he'll be the true victim. 

I don't doubt they are looking into his case more closely than others.  

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Probably explains why in the early going, MLB-wide K/9 rate is 9.6.

This means if a pitcher strikes out exactly one batter per inning, he is below average!

 

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2 hours ago, chasfh said:

lol Trevor Bauer, the guy who highlighted the use of sticky/tacky to increase spin.

Irony, karma, or vendetta?

The whole crackdown feels like a rabbit hole mlb really shouldn't be going down. I'm not confident they have the ability to handle it tactfully and productively 

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44 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Probably explains why in the early going, MLB-wide K/9 rate is 9.6.

This means if a pitcher strikes out exactly one batter per inning, he is below average!

 

Walks are up too and home runs are not down much.  Based on a small sample, the new ball isn't working as intended.  

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1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

 

Glad we didn't sign this loser.save the $$$ for Midge's extension and Verlander so we could pay him to win a World Series...with Houston ?

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17 hours ago, socaltiger said:

Glad we didn't sign this loser.save the $$$ for Midge's extension and Verlander so we could pay him to win a World Series...with Houston ?

Makes you wonder what the course of the franchise would have been if Scherzer was resigned.

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18 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Makes you wonder what the course of the franchise would have been if Scherzer was resigned.

Yeah - I tend to believe Max was one of those snowballs that started an avalanche. It was like every move they made after Max lost more ground.

OTOH, Henning holds strongly that Max was set on taking his highest bid. There were arguments that Detroit's bid was closer to Washington's than it appeared on the surface because of the valuation of deferred payments, but I don't think anyone seriously argues it was better. And though people refuse to acknowledge it because it reflects badly on Jim Leyland and us as fans,  I'm also persuaded that the fact that Max was never going to be more than 2nd fiddle to Verlander in Leyland's (and maybe the fan's)  eyes meant an offer didn't even have to be better to get him out of Detroit. (I would suppose that in the history of the game there are not many CY winners that returned to their same team the next season and barring injury, were not awarded the opening day start). Everyone blew this off at the time but I refuse to believe it was not a big deal to Max even if he doesn't not admit to it through his 'all business' persona.

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13 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Makes you wonder what the course of the franchise would have been if Scherzer was resigned.

Assuming he pitched the same with us as he did with Washington things would have been completely different.   For starters we probably wouldn't have dumped Cespedes(for argument sake we'll say they still trade Porcello for him in the previous offseason) or Price.   Both Price and Cespedes got white hot after we traded them that year, if we keep them and they perform the same way for us along with a full season of Max then we very well make the playoffs that year.   Verlander was coming back around at the end of 2015 too so Max, JV, Price all near their best(unlike 2014 where JV wasn't himself and Price was so so) along with Miggy, JD, Cespedes anchoring the lineup and who knows what would've happened.  

We can all go even deeper down the rabbit hole if we want but that's just one scenario that could've happened in 2015 if we kept him.  

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

Makes you wonder what the course of the franchise would have been if Scherzer was resigned.

Losing Scherzer was the beginning of the end for the Tigers... their best playoff chances at least, no doubt. The first domino so to speak. I desperately wanted him extended or re-signed and would love to imagine the following years with Max & JV etal...

Alas...

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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Yeah - I tend to believe Max was one of those snowballs that started an avalanche. It was like every move they made after Max lost more ground.

OTOH, Henning holds strongly that Max was set on taking his highest bid. There were arguments that Detroit's bid was closer to Washington's than it appeared on the surface because of the valuation of deferred payments, but I don't think anyone seriously argues it was better. And though people refuse to acknowledge it because it reflects badly on Jim Leyland and us as fans,  I'm also persuaded that the fact that Max was never going to be more than 2nd fiddle to Verlander in Leyland's (and maybe the fan's)  eyes meant an offer didn't even have to be better to get him out of Detroit. (I would suppose that in the history of the game there are not many CY winners that returned to their same team the next season and barring injury, were not awarded the opening day start). Everyone blew this off at the time but I refuse to believe it was not a big deal to Max even if he doesn't not admit to it through his 'all business' persona.

I don't remember what my thoughts were of this at the time, but it certainly seems plausible.

You know, you look back at 2013 and Scherzer was the better pitcher, no debate whatsoever.  Wasn't there debate about Scherzer getting the 2014 Opening Day start?  Verlander got the assignment.  Offer him the Washington contract, give him the start to the season, and where are at now?

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18 minutes ago, Casimir said:

You know, you look back at 2013 and Scherzer was the better pitcher, no debate whatsoever.  Wasn't there debate about Scherzer getting the 2014 Opening Day start?  Verlander got the assignment.  

Definitely recall the conversations at the time regarding Verlander getting the opening day nod over Max. 

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Not sure why the MLB.tv broadcast has changed so much since FSD became BSD, but it sure has. 

I used to only get the main 2 broadcasters. Anytime they would go to Keating or whoever in the crowd, it would just be dead air with no audio. Also commercials were cut. Now it seems to be the full broadcast, which is kind of nice. Even though i have to listen to monroe every now and then now. 

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14 hours ago, Yoda said:

Not sure why the MLB.tv broadcast has changed so much since FSD became BSD, but it sure has. 

I used to only get the main 2 broadcasters. Anytime they would go to Keating or whoever in the crowd, it would just be dead air with no audio. Also commercials were cut. Now it seems to be the full broadcast, which is kind of nice. Even though i have to listen to monroe every now and then now. 

You can switch the audio overlay for the Bally telecast to the radio broadcast if you want to mix it up a bit. What you can’t do anymore is have ballpark-only audio, which was a neat option to have. I’m wondering what led them to remove it. I’m guessing someone with an interest in revenue stream wanted that one gone.

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