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A week late but all these losses and hopeless seasons just blend together. Wings, Pistons, Tigers, Lions, Wings, Pistons, Tigers, Lions, Wings, ...  

 

 It is pretty “remarkable”, worse than when I was growing up in the 70s.  At least then we had The Bird, Bo vs Woody, Aggressive Hockey Is Back In Town, and MSU’s Magic vs Indiana State’s Bird. 

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Wings lead 2-0 after 2, the first two-goal lead I can remember the Wings having. 
The Panthers narrowed it early in 3rd but Fabbri just scored to make it 3-1 Wings. 
Wings 11 minutes away from a win. 

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Namestikov whacks in an ENG from 5 ft, away. First time in last 20 tries the Wings will win a game in the state of Florida. 

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Mickey hoping for a half time performance today by “The Rolling Stones, Beatles or the Beach Boys”. 

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4-1, Wings win! Wings first road win of the season, Greiss in net for first win with the Wings, and give Panthers their first regulation loss this season. 

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Givani Smith with the Gordon Howe hat trick. Game winning goal, an assist, and a fight with Ekblad. 

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30 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

No Bertuzzi or Mantha (healthy scratch?) today and Glendenning got knocked out early. 

Mantha's disappearance has been such a bummer.

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blashill finally puts his foot down with mantha.  good.  dont try?  dont play.

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Mantha just signed a 4-year contract.

Is that it? Is he done for? Just don't give a **** anymore?

I mean WTF is WRONG with him? No pride? Whatsoever?

He deserves some SERIOUS CONTEMPT at this point. No Covid and fans in the seats... would/ should be letting him have MORE than an earful... I mean really... despicable.

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I'm not gonna lie I thought it was odd to bench him now because I thought he gave a bit more effort the last few games.  He still wasn't moving his feet overall though so I get it in a way, I just thought he played so much worse before so I was surprised this was the time Blashill chose.  Hopefully it works.  I also hope this is also a product of no pre-season/real training camp and not a newfound laziness for Mantha.  Even with his nice new contract he'll be hurting his ability to earn well on his next deal if he farts around for half his deal here.

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Wheeler is doing his prospect pool rankings over at the Athlentic, Wings came in 4th overall (up from 9th last season): https://theathletic.com/2369931/2021/02/07/nhl-prospect-rankings-red-wings-2021/

 

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No team has made more picks in the past four NHL Drafts than the Detroit Red Wings. In 28 draft rounds from 2017 to 2020, they have made 44 selections — in effect drafting more than six draft classes in a four-year span.

Being ranked No. 4 is the outcome of that. Many teams have done better, and been more consistent, relative to the picks they’ve had during this span, but the Red Wings’ commitment to acquiring picks through their rebuild has allowed them to take a lot of swings and connect often enough to have one of the better prospect pools in the league — even after graduating a player like Filip Zadina or trading a prospect like Alec Regula.

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1. Lucas Raymond, RW, 18 (Frölunda HC)

As I write this, Raymond leads all under-19 SHL players in points (18) and his 0.58 points per game rate makes him nearly the most productive player on an unusually low-scoring Frölunda team (they’re seventh in the 14-team league in goals for without a single player in the league’s top 40 in scoring).

This kid’s going to become what everyone hoped Clayton Keller would become.

2. Moritz Seider, RHD, 19 (Rögle BK)

What’s the one thing I’ve always complained about in Seider’s game? How deferential he is. So what’s the one thing Seider went and changed about his game this season? How deferential he is. It’s like a switch flick.

He’s still got impressive mobility for his 6-foot-4 frame. Is he a dynamic player with the puck, the kind who will find the highlight reel? No. But there’s more style to his game, along with all of the substance that made him special to begin with.

3. Jonatan Berggren, LW/RW, 20 (Skellefteå AIK)

He always had this in him if he could stay healthy, but Berggren going from being a fascinating on-puck prospect with some question marks to being a borderline star-level prospect is still a big deal. 

4. Joe Veleno, C, 21 (Malmö Redhawks)

After a slow start in his first (and last) season in the SHL, with three points in his first nine games, Veleno has become Malmö’s fourth-leading scorer, producing 12 points in the 21 games since (for a half-point per game rate on the season) and averaging more than 17 minutes a night.

5. William Wallinder, LHD, 18 (MODO Hockey)

Wallinder’s raw tools all get high grades. He’s tall (6-foot-4) and long. He’s athletic. He’s got impressive four-way mobility for that size. And he was a late-July birthday in the 2020 draft, placing him early on his development curve. It’s the finer details and skills that still need some tweaking.

6. Michael Rasmussen, C/LW, 21 (Detroit Red Wings/Graz99ers)

Even though he doesn’t turn 22 until April, it feels like Rasmussen has been around forever.

I think he’s got all-situations utility (I’d love to consistently see the Red Wings use him on PP2), good goal-scoring touch around the net and some well-rounded skill with and without the puck, but can he be more than a versatile bottom-six player who adds length to his line and can keep up? I’m not convinced.

7. Antti Tuomisto, RHD, 20 (University of Denver)

Tuomisto’s counting stats haven’t yet come as a freshman at Denver, but he has had an immediate impact on that team. Like Wallinder, he’s a low-floor, high-ceiling defender with all of the physical tools needed to become a top-four player. His point shot is heavy (that includes his long-range wrister, his one-timer and his windup slap shot, the last of which is becoming rare among young defencemen), giving him legitimate goal-scoring upside from the back end. 

8. Albert Johansson, LHD, 20 (Färjestad BK)

Johansson has followed a linear, consistent progression since the 2019 draft. There’s nothing particularly dynamic about his game but he has excelled in his second full season with Färjestad, playing nearly 17 minutes a night and contributing as a positive influence at both ends on a middling team.

9. Theodor Niederbach, C/RW, 18 (Frölunda HC/MODO Hockey)

Niederbach is a slick playmaker who thrives in possession and really pops as an east-west passer and power-play distributor. He has great handles and edges when he attacks off the wall, weaving his way into the middle and maneuvering around opponents.

10. Jared McIsaac, LHD, 20 (HPK/Grand Rapids Griffins)

It has been a challenging couple of years for McIsaac, who underwent surgery on his right shoulder last year and then made it one shift into his first game in Liiga before injuring his left shoulder and requiring another surgery and another six-month layoff (a layoff which basically rules him out for the rest of this season).

11. Robert Mastrosimone, C/LW, 20 (Boston University)

There’s something to be said for versatility, and that’s what Mastrosimone provides. Prospect projection for a lot of these kids is about trying to identify potential roles. But Mastrosimone’s game kind of fits anywhere.

12. Eemil Viro, LHD, 18 (TPS)

I couldn’t get on the same page on Viro as most scouts throughout his draft year and believed he was picked a little early when the Red Wings took him 70th overall (he was 91st on my board). But he is having a very good season for his age in Liiga and impressed with his skating at the world juniors, helping the Finns to a bronze medal. Viro, who doesn’t turn 19 until April, is effortless through his crossovers, heels and into his forward motion.

13. Donovan Sebrango, LHD, 19 (HK Levice/Grand Rapids Griffins/Kitchener Rangers)

One of the final cuts from my final top 100 in advance of the 2020 draft, evaluating Sebrango has never been about whether he’s a good player (he is!) but rather about his ultimate upside. There’s a lot to like about him. His choices with the puck. His four-way mobility. His poise under pressure. His movement off the puck and the way he uses his feet and timing to activate into space to make himself available. The routes he takes.

14. Elmer Soderblom, C/LW, 18 (Frölunda HC)

I outlined how difficult it is for players Soderblom’s size (6-foot-8, 238 pounds) to make it in Rasmussen’s evaluation, so I won’t repeat myself, but you get the picture: The odds are long (pun intended!). But here’s the thing about Soderblom: He’s almost nothing like Rasmussen in play style or tools. Soderblom has A-level hands in tight to his body for his size, helping him control the puck on a string on curls, drags and spins.

15. Otto Kivenmaki, C/LW, 20 (Ässät)

I’ve always had a soft spot for Kivenmaki, a 5-foot-9 multi-position forward (he has played entirely on the wing this year after spending parts of last season in Liiga at his natural centre position) with legitimate skill and playmaking intuition.

16. Alex Cotton, RHD, 19 (Canmore Eagles/Lethbridge Hurricanes)

Cotton emerged as one of the top defencemen in the WHL last season to get drafted as an overager, scoring 20 goals and leading the league’s defencemen in points with 67. He’s a 6-foot-2 righty with a hard shot and a sturdy pro build who logged big minutes in Lethbridge on a team that already featured one of the league’s most prominent offensive defencemen in Wild prospect Calen Addison. His skating still needs some work, and his defensive game is pretty raw, but he was a worthwhile gamble.

17. Givani Smith, RW/LW, 22 (Detroit Red Wings/Grand Rapids Griffins)

18. Keith Petruzzelli, G, 21 (Quinnipiac University)

It has been a long-time coming, and he hasn’t always looked pretty en route to where he’s at today, but Petruzzelli has really put it all together in the past year and a half, playing almost every single game for Quinnipiac in that span and finally finding a consistent level after two up-and-down years. Some of it was just him being a gangly 6-foot-6 goalie who was a little out of his element early on in college and still needed time to get comfortable in his body.

19. Gustav Lindstrom, RHD, 22 (Almtuna IS/Grand Rapids Griffins)

Despite his considerable pro — and even NHL — experience, I’ve never really been able to wrap my head around Lindstrom as more than a No. 6-7 depth defender at his ceiling. He was a dominant junior player at an early age, with a heavy shot and the aggression and confidence to match. His size and handedness don’t hurt either. But I think his rapid progression up the ranks muted some of his upside, forcing him into defence-first roles that never really suited him.

20. Carter Gylander, G, 19 (Colgate University)

Even though his numbers were sterling and he won the AJHL’s goaltender of the year award last season, questions lingered about the legitimacy of Gylander’s NHL upside because he played at the Junior A level and the team in front of him was virtually unbeatable. But the Red Wings decided to bet on his merits in the seventh round, and he has so far rewarded them as a freshman with the Raiders, where he has won the starting job over junior Andrew Farrier. Gylander is a huge goalie (6-foot-5) with room to fill out (a lot like Petruzzelli at the same age) and both good mobility and good control in his net for his size.

He also provides a lot of videos/gifs with analysis of breakdowns for prospects which are great.  He wrote much more as well but there's a general gist for where he sees the players.

I still think Seider is 1 in our prospect pool just based on how well he's done in the SHL.  I also think Johansson has more potential than what Wheeler sees but we will see!

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For some reason I had an irrational belief the Wings were going to tie it in final minute tonight vs Florida. Not to be. 2-1 loss.
 

Zadina scored his first goal of the season. 

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WIngs in Nashville tonight. Listened to five minutes of the 1st period, Fabbri scored late in it to tie it. Still 1-1 midway through 2nd.

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Wings with another last minute goal, only problem is Nashville also got one 14 seconds earlier. 2-2 after 2.

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I'd really like to like this RW team, but they are sooo painful to watch. The whole team plays like they are stuck in 2nd gear and the opposition has their turbohydramatic humming. Can't even enjoy watching  a#1 line get the upper hand occasionally like we could even a couple of years ago. How can you consistently fail to make entry to he offensive zone with the man advantage!

They just have nothing.

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Horrible PP but nice surge afterwards and almost took a late lead on a partial breakaway. Wouldn't you know it, Nashville wins it with a minute to go. Unjust result for a change, the Wings played them evenly and deserved at least a point.

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Wings are playing decently tonight in Nashville, lead 2-0 in 1st on goals by Fabbri and Erne. But this repetition of opponents and venues bores me.

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Wings are dominating. Leading Nashville 3-0 in the 3rd, outshooting them 28-13. Best game of the year by far.

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Wings win! 4-2. Now home for six games.

At this point, looks like the Wings, Sens and Canucks are in the 3-way race for last overall.

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1 hour ago, lordstanley said:

Wings are dominating. Leading Nashville 3-0 in the 3rd, outshooting them 28-13. Best game of the year by far.

They did  play much better in their own end for 2 periods, but truth is regulation still would have ended in a tie if not for two very soft goals that got past Rinne.

Mantha could be a force in this league if he played on a team good enough that he could float around waiting to be set up all the time - sort of like Bertuzzi and Larkin were for him at  year end a couple of seasons ago. On this team he is like a basketball player that can't create his own shot playing with Piston point guards.

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10 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Wings win! 4-2. Now home for six games.

At this point, looks like the Wings, Sens and Canucks are in the 3-way race for last overall.

what's wrong with vancouver?  werent they supposed to be a team on the rise?

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