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Just read an article by a Washington reporter who thinks Washington should give up what they trade for Alex Smith which was a 3rd round pick. They claim he has had issues staying healthy. He's missed 8 games in 10 years. Had one of the longest consecutive start streaks in history. 

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I wouldn't be sad.  I wouldn't necessary agree with doing so, but I am going to trust in these guys until they give me reason not to.

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I just remembered that Sam Bradford, with his injury history, was traded for a 1st and a 4th. These people suggesting anything less than a 1st + are insane. 

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they might not get a top ten first.  maybe a lower first plus a third, or a high second plus a couple other picks.

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13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I just remembered that Sam Bradford, with his injury history, was traded for a 1st and a 4th. These people suggesting anything less than a 1st + are insane. 

The reports I've read said the Lions won't move Stafford unless they get "fair market value" for him. Whatever that means. If Washington only offers a 3rd round pick, hang up the phone. Keep him and take a defensive stud at #7. Sorry Matthew, we tried. : )

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The conversation STARTS with the teams first rd pick THIS year, like SF just said if you do not get that you say sorry Matt we tried, now go make all those teams sorry they did not give up a first for you for next year.

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Negotiations start with two 1sts and the Lions can move down from there. Think the package for Jay Cutler. In a world where Minkah Fitzpatrick and Laremy Tunesil get 1st round picks, Stafford is getting more than a 1st. The Lions traded Roy Williams for a 1st, 3rd and 6th round pick. 

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The market for Stafford is the highest it can get.   The Lions will get great value.   There’s no chance they won’t be offered a 1st.  The question is just how high and what else gets tossed in.   Two 1sts is absolutely not out of the question. 

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6 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

The market for Stafford is the highest it can get.   The Lions will get great value.   There’s no chance they won’t be offered a 1st.  The question is just how high and what else gets tossed in.   Two 1sts is absolutely not out of the question. 

According to 97.1 this is correct.  They are hyping it up big time.  With stuff like this and the Gamestop/Blockbuster thing...I think there will be a correction of business practices/real time trading etc in the near future.  Like within 5 years or so, nothing IMMEDIATE, but I feel like things are going to start evolving even faster than they are now with the internet and business practices like this and with trading.

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It comes down to supply and demand. The demand for quality QBs is much higher in this current market than the supply of quality QBs available. There's about 10 teams that are not drafting in range of the potential franchise QBs that have a QB need and Stafford is currently the 2nd best QB available. It's a clear sellers market and the Lions have one of the best assets.

There will be a bidding war and I guarantee that they will get at least a 1st for him. I'd bet the house, the farm and the family on that.

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3 hours ago, Buddha said:

if detroit gets another top 10 pick, how sad will you be when they package both their top 10 picks to move up and take a qb at #3?

Just to **** me off they'll take Kyle Pitts.

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1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Just to **** me off they'll take Kyle Pitts.

Can never have too many TE...think of the matchup problems!

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They won’t be taking a TE but I like Pitts as a prospect quite a bit more than Hockenson was in 2019. 

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Pioli thinks a deal will get done before the Super Bowl. This is interesting since he did interview for the Lions GM position. 

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8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Pioli thinks a deal will get done before the Super Bowl. This is interesting since he did interview for the Lions GM position. 

I think someone won’t take the chance of getting left without a chair and will lock in on Stafford and make the Lions a massive offer very soon.  

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There have been talks of Pitts being moved to WR in the NFL. The rage would be hilarious, but he wouldn't be an awful pick if he makes it to our second 1st round pick. 

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15 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

There have been talks of Pitts being moved to WR in the NFL. The rage would be hilarious, but he wouldn't be an awful pick if he makes it to our second 1st round pick. 

I'd fire everyone from Spielman on down immediately if I were Sheila. Literally, Kyle Pitts gets drafted and then the bottom line on ESPN/NFL Network says the Detroit Lions have parted ways with Chris Spielman, Brad Holmes, John Dorsey, Ray Agnew, and Dan Campbell. If the Lions wanted to draft one of Chase, Smith, Waddle that's finem but Pitts has to be off limits.

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39 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

There have been talks of Pitts being moved to WR in the NFL. The rage would be hilarious, but he wouldn't be an awful pick if he makes it to our second 1st round pick. 

He’s 250 pounds.  I don’t think that could happen and I’m not sure why anyone would want to move him anyway.  

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Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Ian Rappaport is reporting that potentially 10-12 teams have already contacted the Lions about Stafford.

Some team is going to give a massive amount for him.

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14 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Some team is going to give a massive amount for him.

I feel like it will be a team not on anyone's radar. A team willing to make a splash. Goff's time in LA may be up. The Rams have not been shy about trading picks. You have the Holmes connection. Goff's contract looks untradeable though. 

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1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I'd fire everyone from Spielman on down immediately if I were Sheila. Literally, Kyle Pitts gets drafted and then the bottom line on ESPN/NFL Network says the Detroit Lions have parted ways with Chris Spielman, Brad Holmes, John Dorsey, Ray Agnew, and Dan Campbell. If the Lions wanted to draft one of Chase, Smith, Waddle that's finem but Pitts has to be off limits.

 

49 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

He’s 250 pounds.  I don’t think that could happen and I’m not sure why anyone would want to move him anyway.  

He's 6'6''/239... Mike Evans went to the combine at 6'5''/231... He's not far from just fine WR measurables at his height, but the 40-time may give more insight on that regard. He was used as a TE/slot WR at Florida. His strengths are as a receiver and creating matchup nightmares, his weakness is blocking. And he's as high as top 5 on some big boards I've seen.  It's not out of the question for an NFL team to grab him as a hybrid athletic freak rather than a strict TE.

I'm not saying the Lions should draft him, I think we can and should get a key defensive piece with that hypothetical second 1st rounder. But those who are okay with the Lions selecting Devonta Smith shouldn't be super opposed to getting Pitts if he drops to 12 or 21, especially if we are re-signing Golladay long-term and letting Marvin Jones walk.

And it's a Lions tradition! Rebuild, Draft a TE in the 1st round, Gridiron Heroes, Repeat! ;)

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3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

 

He's 6'6''/239... Mike Evans went to the combine at 6'5''/231... He's not far from just fine WR measurables at his height, but the 40-time may give more insight on that regard. He was used as a TE/slot WR at Florida. His strengths are as a receiver and creating matchup nightmares, his weakness is blocking. And he's as high as top 5 on some big boards I've seen.  It's not out of the question for an NFL team to grab him as a hybrid athletic freak rather than a strict TE.

I'm not saying the Lions should draft him, I think we can and should get a key defensive piece with that hypothetical second 1st rounder. But those who are okay with the Lions selecting Devonta Smith shouldn't be super opposed to getting Pitts if he drops to 12 or 21, especially if we are re-signing Golladay long-term and letting Marvin Jones walk.

And it's a Lions tradition! Rebuild, Draft a TE in the 1st round, Gridiron Heroes, Repeat! ;)

what do you have against david lewis and brandon pettigrew?

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17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I feel like it will be a team not on anyone's radar. A team willing to make a splash. Goff's time in LA may be up. The Rams have not been shy about trading picks. You have the Holmes connection. Goff's contract looks untradeable though. 

I agree - I think a team like the Cowboys, Raiders, Giants, or even Titans might be one of those 10-12 teams and may shock everyone with a massive offer that makes you go "but what about -"

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