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8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Goff is younger, better injury history, better contract, and doesn't have as much baggage as Wentz. I could see a late 1st in lieu of multiple picks that the Eagles got. In any event, the Rams didn't have to pay 1st round picks to make Goff go away. He has value and decent value. He's probably worth at worst one 2nd round pick. 

yeah, you could be right.

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5 hours ago, Jason_R said:

It’s not that she was wrong. She was a tool. Some unnamed source was using her to spread false informa

But she knows she’s being used and doesn’t care. It gets her tweets clicked and her stories read  

Just assume that every journalist is doing this all the time. 

Thats what im saying its wrong information and there is no accountability. Theyll keep using the source and she won't face punishment for not verifying what one person told her.

Let me tell you if someone did that to one of my staff members than we wouldn't be using that source anymore

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57 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Thats what im saying its wrong information and there is no accountability. Theyll keep using the source and she won't face punishment for not verifying what one person told her.

Let me tell you if someone did that to one of my staff members than we wouldn't be using that source anymore

But they don’t care about putting the truth out there. The leakers want to shape the narrative. The press wants our clicks  

“Let’s plant a fake story and see if we can drive up his value.”

”The assistant to the assistant GM gave me a tip that is probably fake, but if I write ‘Sources say,’ I won’t be lying and I’ll get attention.”

If you want to hold them accountable, know their game and don’t play it. 

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1 hour ago, Jason_R said:

But they don’t care about putting the truth out there. The leakers want to shape the narrative. The press wants our clicks  

“Let’s plant a fake story and see if we can drive up his value.”

”The assistant to the assistant GM gave me a tip that is probably fake, but if I write ‘Sources say,’ I won’t be lying and I’ll get attention.”

If you want to hold them accountable, know their game and don’t play it. 

Yeah what you're not getting is that I'm in the industry. I don't like that that kind of thinking is allowed in sports departments. Hence my original comment. 

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8 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Yeah what you're not getting is that I'm in the industry. I don't like that that kind of thinking is allowed in sports departments. Hence my original comment. 

How much is driven by the economics of newspapers and/or web sites not being able to afford/keep quality sports (or any other kind!) of journalists around long enough for them become good pros? There are only so many openings at ESPN. It seem like almost everyone writing sports today (outside of ESPN) is very young, like it's a job where you know you are likely going to have to give it up when you finally want a real life so you have to try to make the biggest slash you can?

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1 hour ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Yeah what you're not getting is that I'm in the industry. I don't like that that kind of thinking is allowed in sports departments. Hence my original comment. 

I don’t like that it is allowed anywhere. But do you really think the reporter who ran with that anonymous source cared one way or another whether it was true?

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23 hours ago, Jason_R said:

But they don’t care about putting the truth out there. The leakers want to shape the narrative. The press wants our clicks  

“Let’s plant a fake story and see if we can drive up his value.”

”The assistant to the assistant GM gave me a tip that is probably fake, but if I write ‘Sources say,’ I won’t be lying and I’ll get attention.”

If you want to hold them accountable, know their game and don’t play it. 

Very few people care about, are influenced by, or indulge in this type of behavior. Usually it's wrongful speculation, different perception, or circumstances change.

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22 hours ago, Jason_R said:

I don’t like that it is allowed anywhere. But do you really think the reporter who ran with that anonymous source cared one way or another whether it was true?

That. Is. The. Problem. 

 

That. Is. What. I. Keep. Saying. That is just accepted by sports departments and fans without any accountability. 

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23 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

How much is driven by the economics of newspapers and/or web sites not being able to afford/keep quality sports (or any other kind!) of journalists around long enough for them become good pros? There are only so many openings at ESPN. It seem like almost everyone writing sports today (outside of ESPN) is very young, like it's a job where you know you are likely going to have to give it up when you finally want a real life so you have to try to make the biggest slash you can?

Some of it. I think the big thing is that sports journalism has turned into celebrity esc-scoops and rumors over the last 20 years and all that's cared about is if we have the rumor first and not necissarly if its in any way true. It's a trickle down from national people. So Schefter goes on and thows out whatever, doesn't matter how "true" it is. Then the local people get mad because he's got a scoop on the local team so they feel obligated to come out with their own (we saw some of that after the Stafford trade. There were a few from Detroit people that we're like "no duh") 

Then you have conusmers, i.e fans, and editors of new groups (often from the news side) who view sports departments as toy departments and who cares if a rumor was wrong or not true. It's just sports, whatever. Meanwhile over in news if someone ran something a source said that was wrong and turned out not to be close to true, well 3 people are getting fired and the newsroom manual is getting rewritten. 

I hate that sports journalism is just treated like that, that its just a quest for scoops and the truth be damned and nobody cares about what is actually true. 

I think changes start with the consumer tuning out and calling out these very very wrong reports. For example, if the bears were actually offering a first round pick, foles and a young player and the Eagles instead took the Colts deal that is either extremly negligent by Philly and more questions should be asked. Or the more likely scenerio was the radio personality didn't verify how true it was and she should be called out for inaccurate, lazy info.

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