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Michigan has finished in the AP top 10 38 times.  16 of those came under Bo.  

 

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1 minute ago, Gehringer_2 said:

yeah - pretty much - I thought he was a gas bag who could recruit the heII out of Ohio. Then his stint with the Tigers just confirmed it.

Sure, but he raised Michigan football from the dead and made them a national power for 20 years.

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BTW, getting back to the Lions, Stafford will play on Sunday.  Watch those idiots beat the Vikings and ruin their draft position.

Now, I don't think draft position is the be all end all of talent acquisition, but it's also better to be drafting earlier than later, IMO.  Gives you more options.

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1 minute ago, Buddha said:

Sure, but he raised Michigan football from the dead and made them a national power for 20 years.

So, for bringing a fabled program back to some prominence I need to regard him at least a much as say -  Urban Meyer? :wink:

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Just now, Gehringer_2 said:

So, for bringing a fabled program back to some prominence I need to regard him at least a much as say -  Urban Meyer? :wink:

Ohio State was already at the top when Meyer got there, he took them to the elite.

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31 minutes ago, Buddha said:

BTW, getting back to the Lions, Stafford will play on Sunday.  Watch those idiots beat the Vikings and ruin their draft position.

Now, I don't think draft position is the be all end all of talent acquisition, but it's also better to be drafting earlier than later, IMO.  Gives you more options.

I don't care that much about a number of positions on the draft board one win could affect, but I do think it's crazy to let Stafford play this game. The least you can do for your new regime is try to deliver them a healthy Stafford. Give him a couple of series then sit him down.

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11 minutes ago, Buddha said:

Michigan has finished in the AP top 10 38 times.  16 of those came under Bo.  

 

The question is how accurate were those polls with the Pac10 and B10 playing in their own little universe? And even then his bowl record was terrible.  ( Could be I'm jaded because I had the misfortune to have spent money I couldn't afford to be at three of those losses - :depress:)

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I'm 48 years old.  I barely remember the 70s teams except for my parents and grandparents sitting around talking about Bo can't win the big games.

Of all the teams I do remember, the best Michigan teams I've seen were probably 1985, 1988, 1991, 1992, 1997, 1999, 2006, and 2016.

Bo's run in the 70s was too early for me.  His run in the mid to late 80s with Harbaugh was a lot of great teams.  Plus the teams he recruited and left for Moeller in the early 90s with Grbac were awesome, they just got trucked by one of the great teams of all time in the Rose Bowl (that Washington team killed them).  Lloyd's late 90s teams were obviously great and the last great Lloyd team was 06 (that got trucked by USC).  2016 was a couple unlucky breaks from being undefeated.

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22 minutes ago, Buddha said:

I'm 48 years old.  I barely remember the 70s teams except for my parents and grandparents sitting around talking about Bo can't win the big games.

the 1st Michigan game I ever attended was the great 1969 upset over OSU so Bo's legacy was my formative college football experience.. But let's be fair here as well, Bump's heart was no longer in coaching - he had run out of gas as a field general (he did have a fine run as AD at Iowa left in him), but he didn't leave Bo chopped liver for a roster either. Bo won the biggest game of his career mostly with Bump's recruits. In the old days it was never that hard to recruit at Mich.

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2 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

the 1st Michigan game I ever attended was the great 1969 upset over OSU so Bo's legacy was my formative college football experience.. But let's be fair here as well, Bump's heart was no longer in coaching - he had run out of gas as a field general (he did have a fine run as AD at Iowa left in him), but he didn't leave Bo chopped liver for a roster either. Bo won the biggest game of his career mostly with Bump's recruits. In the old days it was never that hard to recruit at Mich.

My first game was circa 1978, but my best was the Ohio State game in 1995, when the Buckeyes came in undefeated and Tim Biakabatuka ran wild on them, rushing for 313 yards.

For many years, even if national championship contention was not in the offing, you could at least go to almost every Michigan game either expecting them to win or at least knowing that they'd have a solid chance.  Since Rich Rod was hired 13 years ago, that has not been the case.  

In the 20080-2020 seasons, Michigan has had a nine-loss campaign, two seasons with seven losses, two with six, and two with five, and the rest with three or four, including this season when they played only six games.  God only knows how bad it would have been if Michigan hadn't dodged so much of the schedule.   

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1 hour ago, six-hopper said:

My first game was circa 1978, but my best was the Ohio State game in 1995, when the Buckeyes came in undefeated and Tim Biakabatuka ran wild on them, rushing for 313 yards.

For many years, even if national championship contention was not in the offing, you could at least go to almost every Michigan game either expecting them to win or at least knowing that they'd have a solid chance.  Since Rich Rod was hired 13 years ago, that has not been the case.  

In the 20080-2020 seasons, Michigan has had a nine-loss campaign, two seasons with seven losses, two with six, and two with five, and the rest with three or four, including this season when they played only six games.  God only knows how bad it would have been if Michigan hadn't dodged so much of the schedule.   

Most fun for me was '76  in Columbus. The future SO and I drove down and scalped a couple of tickets in the open end of the horse shoe with the OSU students in the bleachers. The 1st half was freezing cold and was trench warfare on both sides - even the OSU fans were screaming for Woody to open it up. Second half the sun came out and UM put on an offensive clinic. 22-0  The Buckeyes didn't even have the heart to keep giving us a bad time. Woody was near the end of the line by then and the OSU fans knew it as well as anyone.

Sadly that season ended on the Charles White phantom touchdown. 🤮  Still that was a trip even USC couldn't ruin for us.

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Lions to Pursue Current Seahawks GM John Schneider per Ian Rappaport

Uhhhhhhhhh WOW!!!!! Chris Spielman or whoever in the organization has some balls on them. Trying to poach a GM from of the the most successful and winningest franchises in sports over the last decade is bold as it gets. You can't say the Lions aren't trying or doing a thorough search this time.

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17 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Lions to Pursue Current Seahawks GM John Schneider per Ian Rappaport

Uhhhhhhhhh WOW!!!!! Chris Spielman or whoever in the organization has some balls on them. Trying to poach a GM from of the the most successful and winningest franchises in sports over the last decade is bold as it gets. You can't say the Lions aren't trying or doing a thorough search this time.

You have to try I guess. I can also try to ask Gal Gadot out but am unlikely to be successful.

Well, as Wayne Gretzky said "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" so kudos to Sheila and co. for being bold.

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8 minutes ago, NYLion said:

You have to try I guess. I can also try to ask Gal Gadot out but am unlikely to be successful.

Well, as Wayne Gretzky said "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" so kudos to Sheila and co. for being bold.

ummmm...im pretty sure michael scott said that.

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Doesn't hurt to kick the tires. They would obviously have to make him the highest paid executive in the NFL. He would probably have more power and would have a new challenge. 

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5 minutes ago, Buddha said:

ummmm...im pretty sure michael scott said that.

It was originally credited to Gretzky  although not an official quote. 

On another note, I might be the only person in the world who thinks The Office is overrated. It has some funny scenes, and a lot of great gifs, but a lot of people treat it as the best comedy of all time. I don't get the fascination.

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27 minutes ago, NYLion said:

It was originally credited to Gretzky  although not an official quote. 

On another note, I might be the only person in the world who thinks The Office is overrated. It has some funny scenes, and a lot of great gifs, but a lot of people treat it as the best comedy of all time. I don't get the fascination.

it was a joke.  from the office...

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btw, it looks like john schneider's agent has been busy feeding the press stories in order to get his client a fat raise.

or he is making a power play in seattle to get more authority.

either way, i doubt very much this story came from the lions.

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15 minutes ago, Buddha said:

it was a joke.  from the office...

I swore I heard of that quote before Michael Scott used it but whatever, it doesn't matter.

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I really like Schneider, but there's an obvious fit issue. It would take at least a couple of drafts to get his type of players, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It would be tougher if the Lions had to give the Seahawks draft picks as compensation for JS.

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It may be tempting for these GM's to leave their current roles if the Lions offer them a Jon Gruden type contract. I'm not sure I want to make that kind of commitment to a GM no matter how good they are. 

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53 minutes ago, cruzer1 said:

I really like Schneider, but there's an obvious fit issue. It would take at least a couple of drafts to get his type of players, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It would be tougher if the Lions had to give the Seahawks draft picks as compensation for JS.

Why would the Lions have to offer compensation? According to the article, the Lions could offer him a higher position than what he has in Seattle. 

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1 hour ago, NYLion said:

I swore I heard of that quote before Michael Scott used it but whatever, it doesn't matter.

THAT'S THE JOKE!

forget it, you have to have watched the office episode to get it.

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we all know the lions are going to win this game, right?  i mean, it would be the most lions thing to do.

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