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1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

What is the deal with Lawlar?  I see that Prospectus and ESPN both still have him number 1 overall on their personal boards yet have him mocked anywhere from 5 to 10.   What's the deal with that?  

I saw one writer say Lawler was the player every team was looking for reasons to talk themselves out of - he couldn't figure it either. One knock supposedly is that he is 19 already.....Srsly?

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I think they are looking at Mayer - House - Lawler. They're envisioning Torkelson at first and House at third for many years to come. Personally I would probably take Lawler for his speed and better chance of sticking at short but the Tigers will prioritize the power bat. I will be very surprised if they take a pitcher.

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5 hours ago, socaltiger said:

I read somewhere that Lawler strikes out too much for a high school star. 

That was a momentary issue that he soon corrected. The four HS shortstops plus Jobe are as strong a group of high schoolers at the top of the draft in a long time. It will be fun to follow, and I would hate to have to choose amoung them.

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Brady House, SS, Winder-Barrow HS (GA), Tennessee commit

In this situation, I think it's down to House and Jackson Jobe. I'm leaning House, but it's close and I'm getting conflicting info on their preference. I think this is Mayer's floor if he somehow gets here. I've heard conflicting things about whether they'd take Leiter over one of the shortstops if he got here. They're on Maryland prep SS Jackson Merrill and Eastern Illinois SS Trey Sweeney among others at their next picks.

 

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13 minutes ago, Microline133 said:

I'm getting a lot of Leiter feedback in my discussions. They don't expect Mayer to make it to them and would have some difficult decisions if he slides.

Who do you think?

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20 minutes ago, Microline133 said:

I'm getting a lot of Leiter feedback in my discussions. They don't expect Mayer to make it to them and would have some difficult decisions if he slides.

sad state of affairs but now any time you are looking at a high spin guy you have find out how much help he was using to get there.

Still love the high spin 4 seamer though. It's the pitch thats hard to barrel even when left over the plate. Of course it also gets a lot of foul balls.  if Verlander is any model, you might also be looking at a guy that racks up high pitch counts in the majors -- and durability is what people seem to worry about Leiter.

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21 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Again... why is Lawlar dropping?

 

IDK - maybe a great overall package but no standout tool?  Not expected to hit for big power, doesn't have a cannon for an arm, not the fastest guy out of the box, etc.

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I hope we are not drafting House because shortstop is a weak position in the system.  The chances of him staying there appear slim to me.  I'd prefer Jobe personally if we are going to go high upside high school kid.  

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25 minutes ago, Hart said:

I hope we are not drafting House because shortstop is a weak position in the system.  The chances of him staying there appear slim to me.  I'd prefer Jobe personally if we are going to go high upside high school kid.  

Just based on body type, you would think that if you want the guy that is most sure to stay at short it would be Lawler or Watson. Either Mayer or House would be an outlier to stay a plus defender at Short at that size. I went through the list last week and I came up with only a single >6' 3" SS with a plus glove (by DRS) that is a regular starter - Correa. TBF, Seager is pretty close but has never quite had a positive DRS.  But then again - top 5 five players in the draft maybe should be outliers.

House supposedly has thrown 95mph as a pitcher, that should be quite an asset at Short or 3B.

 

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https://www.blessyouboys.com/2021/7/10/22558695/detroit-tigers-brady-house-2021-mlb-draft - House has power but might need his whole swing re-made from ground up. No thanks. Even though he has a nice swing, he has a noticable "hitch". Oi vey. We definitely want this guy.....

 

I think draft will be Mayer, Leiter, House.

 

I would rather have Jobe myself but we will let Al screw us again. Who else can draft a 200k/season SS with a top 5 pick? Only the Tigers..... We are destined for House. 

 

Although Micro did say Leiter....??? I'd be more than ok with that. Trade Boyd an Turnbull this off season for some position prospects after they come back healthy the second half. 

Mayer, Jobe or Leiter I'd be more than ok with. I think we will end up with House though.

 

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2 hours ago, Hart said:

I hope we are not drafting House because shortstop is a weak position in the system.  The chances of him staying there appear slim to me.  I'd prefer Jobe personally if we are going to go high upside high school kid.  

I'm not interested in House because he's a SS...

I'm interested in him because he has the loudest bat. If he gets pushed over to 3B then so be it... I don't care. Give me the best hit tool/ power tool combination. That's House.

If I wanted a SS only, I'm drafting Lawlar.

I think all the top 10 pitchers come AFTER Mayer-Lawlar-House... IMO.

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2 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

I'm not interested in House because he's a SS...

I'm interested in him because he has the loudest bat. If he gets pushed over to 3B then so be it... I don't care. Give me the best hit tool/ power tool combination. That's House.

If I wanted a SS only, I'm drafting Lawlar.

I think all the top 10 pitchers come AFTER Mayer-Lawlar-House... IMO.

You really trust the Tigers to completely remake his swing if needed? Im mortified at the thought.

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