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STLTiger69

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  1. LOL,...Dombrowski taking a page from the Oakland A's playbook of how to restock at the trade deadline....
  2. There is still time for the Yankees to get Price from the Blue Jays.....tick tock,....
  3. I'm pretty sure they are Canadian, so the one on the left is LaBourt, and the one on the right is LaErnie. I'm sure of it.....
  4. Respectfully I disagree. A Cespedes re-signing might simply happen like all others. Dombrowski contacts Cespedes agent and says the Tigers would like to work out a contract extension to keep Cespedes a Tiger for the next few years and what terms would Cespedes find agreeable? Cesepedes through his agent could also say "No thank you, we were planning instead to avail ourselves of the free agent signing period after the world series" and Dombrowski could then advise Cespedes and his agent that he has been traded to the Fukashima Isatopes.
  5. +1, I mean seriously, what is the best the Tigers could hope for, the prospect would develop into someone just like or almost as good as Cespedes?
  6. SO,...does anyone know how Price's BP at 2 in Camden went today?
  7. But it's all written in Canadian, which takes longer to type I understand...
  8. I'm not disagreeing with you on the call that the Tigers would likely keep Kinsler for 2016 more or less. And I do like the second half Kinsler much better than the first half Kinsler... [table] [thead][tr][th]Split[/th][th]G[/th][th]GS[/th][th]PA[/th][th]AB[/th][th]R[/th][th]H[/th][th]2B[/th][th]3B[/th][th]HR[/th][th]RBI[/th][th]BB[/th][th]SO[/th][th]BA[/th][th]OBP[/th][th]SLG[/th][th]OPS[/th][th]BAbip[/th][/tr][/thead] [tr][td]1st Half[/td][td]87[/td][td]86[/td][td]384[/td][td]347[/td][td]50[/td][td]95[/td][td]20[/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]39[/td][td]33[/td][td]52[/td][td].274[/td][td].339[/td][td].375[/td][td].713[/td][td].313[/td][/tr] [tr][td]2nd Half[/td][td]12[/td][td]12[/td][td]51[/td][td]49[/td][td]8[/td][td]17[/td][td]4[/td][td]1[/td][td]2[/td][td]5[/td][td]2[/td][td]9[/td][td].347[/td][td].373[/td][td].592[/td][td].964[/td][td].395[/td][/tr] [/table]
  9. Again, if the Tigers have 1/3rd of a lost 2015 season to see....why not try it? EDIT: Also it's not like I'd just sit Kinsler the rest of the season either. Machado can play SS for Iglesias for a few days a week (Save Igleasias and his legs for next year), then slide Machado over to 2B to do the "same" for Kinsler at 2B too....
  10. Respectfully, all I'm saying is let the Tigers try and see what they have for the rest of 2015 and if they can bring anything from the minors to help at the major league level for next year. It will let Dombrowski (or the next GM) know for sure what holes need to be filled and in what order. if the Tigers can find a "closer" for 2016 from within, (not saying they will, but IF) it would mean Dombrowski or whoever is GM) wouldn't have to spend $10M-ish for a year or two contract to find Joe Nathan version 2.0 that would be waiting in free agency for the Tigers to call. If the Tigers can find a decent 4th outfielder for 2016 to replace the $5M Davis cost the Tigers for 2015, then that's another hole the Tigers don't have to fill with millions of dollars for 2016. And to some degree, while Kinsler is a decent option for his money for now ($25M total for the next two years PLUS a $5M buyout for 2018) but would Dixon Machado really be a $$30M downgrade over Kinsler for the next couple of years? If Machado can play somewhat near Kinsler's level for 2016 (hint- probably NOT, but....might just be worth 1/3rd of a losing season to find out), the Tigers might be able to move Kinsler in the off season and save $30M over the next couple of years too. EDIT: Remember adding Zack Greinke, Johnny Cueto and signing Cespedes back will be expensive....
  11. I would imagine they are paid during the season. I remember hearing about Tigers players (1940's-50's I believe) having to take summer jobs during the off season to make ends meet. So unless it's something like a post season bonus or award bonus (look! I won the Cy Young and my contract says...) or something like that, I would think they are paid during the season. PS: The money the Tigers would save would be about $10M by trading the players now. However another MTS poster pointed out correctly that it might also COST the Tigers in ticket sales from here on through the end of the season, so what the actual "savings" might be may be less than $10M when you weigh it all out...
  12. +1 For me, it's a chance to know that Miggy can take his time getting back from his injury this year without rushing it. Give important pieces like Iglesias and V-Mart some time off too, keep them healthy for 2016 also. Let's the "youngsters" play, see if Machado has enough moxy in him to give Kinsler a run for his money at 2B the rest of 2016. See if ANYONE from within the Tigers organization wants to be a closer for 2016 and beyond. See if any minor league outfielder is ready to take a 3rd or 4th outfield sport for 2016 too. Lastly, the Philadelphia Phillies seem destine for the #1 draft pick, but why should the Tigers settle for a top 15 draft pick by having a so-so losing season when a top 5 draft pick is clearly within reach for a truly lousy 2015 Tiger finish!
  13. For what it is worth, I don't think "MLB ready" is the criteria for Dombrowski. Getting the most "value" is. Say for instance, if Dombrowski manages to get the most coveted top 3 minor league first basement via the trade deadline, Dombrowski can simply trade the three new prospects to other teams for (possibly) already in the MLB talent in return. All I'm saying is don't freekout if you see a bunch of players from A or AA predominantly mentioned and think Cabrera will be in the hall of fame before the Tigers are good again. Dombrowski is just trying to add to the Tigers arsenal of chips to use for trades in the winter along with some free agent signings to get the Tigers in the best shape for the 2016 season.... (if he's still around as the GM of course...)
  14. Honestly though, how many of those teams that traded away a player during the year would have lined up to be the highest bidder for that same player during free agency? All I'm saying is that sometimes money talks in funny ways.
  15. Agreed, Cespedes will probably be getting closer to your numbers but Cespedes might do the Tigers a favor and allow his contract to be back loaded. Verlander's 2020 year $22M vesting option occurs if Verlander's is in the top 5 for Cy Young vote for 2019. -I'm not putting that as a sure thing right now... Giving Cespedes a 6 year deal starting in 2016 would mean likely about 1/2 of Cespedes' contract would occur after Verlander's done after the 2019 season. So maybe Cespedes and the Tigers can shake hands on something closer to something like $15M for 2016, and $25M for 2022 sort if thing,....
  16. Respectfully Buddha, the Tigers are looking at possibly dumping over $60M in payroll by losing Price, Cespedes, Nathan, Soria, Simon, Avila and Davis before the 2016 season. And that assumes that the Tigers don't try and move Kinsler (Or Victor Martinez) either now or in the off season either. Even if the Tigers gave Cespedes a 50% pay raise to stay in Detroit (say, from his current salary of $10M to $15M), your still talking about the Tigers having $40-ish million left to play with going into 2016.
  17. Next day or two... Then you can tell me all about the team meetings you've attended as a veteran player if the Tigers are not sellers.
  18. We'll know in as little as the next day or two...... +1 They are selling. I've never heard DD go into a team meeting to announce he's going to trade for another starter or reliever to help for the stretch run like previous years. This year is different.....
  19. Agreed that the field looks pretty decent for next year, but the pitching is shaping to be really ugly after 2015... If Cespedes leaves, Tigers do need a new starting LF. If Davis leaves, Tigers need a 4th outfielder. How bad do you want to replace Castellanos at 3B? (if at all?!?) Will the Tigers trade Kinsler to save money while obtaining the next Scott Sizemore version 2.0 on waivers or small trade deal...? Avila is likely a non-tender candidate (McCann and Holiday to take over). And again, the pitching is the massive problem for 2016: Soria leaves, Tigers need a new closer. Price leave, another #1 ace pitcher would be nice... Simon leaves,Tigers need another starter at the back end of the rotation. And then there is the bullpen,....
  20. Part of it is; 1) Do you want to play for a wildcard birth in 2015? 2) Are the Tigers going to bid to retain players like Price, Soria, Davis, Cespedes for 2016? If the answer NO to BOTH, what are the Tigers doing by keeping those players for the rest of the year? Just trading Price now would save the Tigers about $6.5 million for the rest of this year. If nobody offers a better trade deal for Price than the Tigers can get from a compensation draft pick (And paying Price the remaining $6.5M doesn't phase you), fine, draft pick it is. But I suspect the Tigers could do a little better than a compensatory draft pick for Price- even if he is just a 1/3 of a season rental. IF the Tigers are not going to fight for the wildcard and not going to resign them, why keep Davis (and the $1.5M-ish he's owed the rest of the season or Soria (and the $2.3M he's owed for the rest of 2015)? ESPECIALLY if you can get anything for them and get salary relief for this season when if you play for the wildcard slot, it costs the Tigers $10M plus to keep Price, Davis and Soria around AND if all three walk at the end of the year, the Tigers might only get a single draft pick from Price's departure.
  21. Also with Cespedes' release clause, I think that throws a huge wrench into Cespedes' value for another team that might be thinking "trade and sign" with Cespedes. If Say the Dodgers trade for Cespedes and he doesn't sign and extension with the Dodgers before he is released, that means the Dodgers can only resign Cespedes AFTER May 15th of 2016- something like a month and a half after the season starts for 2016. And in that time, Cespedes would be free to sign as a free agent with any of the other 29 MLB teams,...
  22. I would think it would be like the "no trade" clauses in players contracts. If both parties agree to a modification of the contract, the clause can be modified. EDIT: Although I would presume that if the Tigers did "release" Cespedes five days after the conclusion of the World Series, then the league rules regarding a released player would apply. Short answer- If the Tigers want to keep Cespedes, they better re-negotiate his contract BEFORE they are required to release him after the WS...
  23. +1 I think for Nick the fact that he's 22 and the Tigers have a lot bigger decisions to make this off season spells out that Castellanos likely will have another shot at 3B for the Tigers for the 2015 season too. I am somewhat conflicted on Castellanos because his defense really is bad at 3B and he really preformed at replacement player level this year. On the other hand, Castellanos has the tools to go all J.D. Martinez for the Tigers next year and hit .300 with 25-30 HR's with 90-100-ish RBI's with a slightly improved defense and suddenly he's a valuable 3B for just about any team. For his $500K-ish salary for 2015, I think the Tigers will give him another year to see who the real Castellanos is before they trade him away or move him around the ballfield like a man without a position.
  24. I'll admit the story is not the clearest on how that option plays out if Avila doesn't make the vesting part. But as I understood the story it was that the team option would have "vested" for Avila if he would have got all star,top 15 MVP or Silver Slugger. If Avila would have succeeded with a silver slugger or the like, then the Tigers would be on the hook for the full $5.4M 2015 option that vested. However, since Avila didn't win the silver slugger (or hit other marks specified in the contract), then the option in Avila's contract did not vest and the Tigers still have the "option" to either pay Avila $5.4M for 2015 or give him a $200K handshake goodbye instead. EDIT: Sorry Shelton, you beat me to it.
  25. Alex Avila and the Tigers came to an agreement for a one-year deal with an option for 2015 on Friday, avoiding arbitration, the team announced. Tigers came to an agreement for a one-year deal with an option for 2015 on Friday, avoiding arbitration, the team announced. Avila will be paid $4.15 million in 2014 with a vesting option for $5.4 million if he can make the All-Star team, achieve top 15 MVP, or earn a Silver Slugger title, per Joel Sherman of the NY Post. The buyout on the option costs $200,000. Alex Avila, Tigers avoid arbitration, agree to 2014 contract - Bless You Boys
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