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Everyone is trying to get the next Bam Adebayo.

They say this kid is a rim protector.  If he can switch in the PnR on defense he probably has some value.  Probably a safer pick with a lower bust ratio than a guy below him who may or may not develop into a ball handling shot creator.  

 

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8 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Everyone is trying to get the next Bam Adebayo.

They say this kid is a rim protector.  If he can switch in the PnR on defense he probably has some value.  Probably a safer pick with a lower bust ratio than a guy below him who may or may not develop into a ball handling shot creator.  

 

He’s super athletic and can cover a bunch of space.   He’s definitely not a Center from the Andre mold.   He’s got some nice post skills and has some room to grow on offense.  
 

 

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On 4/10/2020 at 1:36 PM, Deleterious said:

Everyone is trying to get the next Bam Adebayo.

They say this kid is a rim protector.  If he can switch in the PnR on defense he probably has some value.  Probably a safer pick with a lower bust ratio than a guy below him who may or may not develop into a ball handling shot creator.  

 

Pistons don't need the safe pick.  A couple of safe picks just gets you back to mediocrity.  They need to land a star, and then get some safe picks to build around him.  Until then, you gotta swing for the fences to find the focal point of your offense.

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They can't possibly hold the draft on June 25th if they have plans to restart a season at some point, can they?. I guess they could hold the draft before a potential restart (which seems highly doubtful anyway) but that would be weird, then again everything is weird nowadays.

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MLB has their draft during the season; the NBA should be able to do the same unless there's something I'm overlooking.  They could hold back the contract-signing period until the season is officially declared over, or simply make draftees ineligible until the '20-'21 season.

If this year's college seniors get another year of eligibility, that could be something, but college seniors don't factor much into the NBA draft.

 

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A drafted player cant sign until next season anyway.  The new season starts on July 1st. 

You can't really continue this season without negotiating and moving that new season start date back.  Because players and coaches on the last year of their deals would technically be done and free agents on July 1.

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https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Interesting they have Hayes #1.  Givony has him #10 on his board and that was updated just a week ago.

Not sure how good The Ringer is though.  They had a guy originally listed on that board who had already said he was returning to school.  They also have those little icons listing a players strength.  For Hayes it lists off-ball defense.  Yet under his minuses it says he misses defensive rotation. Which one is it?

 Givony on the other hand got his start in European scouting and used to sell his reports to NBA teams.  

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edwards has to be #1.  unless you want to take a chance that wiseman develops into rasheed wallace.

get me a guy who can create with the ball in his hands and shoot from anywhere.  is that so much to ask?

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With this draft class, it may be too much to ask, at least plug-and-play, which ideally you would get at the top.  There seems to be decent talent, but much of it unrefined and with limited bodies of work.  A far cry from the past couple drafts, at this point anyway.  It feels closer to 2017 than 2018-19.

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1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Love it.

 

he's getting 500k.

kentucky isnt giving out 500k anymore?????  man, times must be tough down there.

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2 minutes ago, Buddha said:

he's getting 500k.

kentucky isnt giving out 500k anymore?????  man, times must be tough down there.

He doesn't have to pretend to go to class.  No 20 hour a week restriction practice.  A shoe company will probably sign him to a deal with an option of he gets drafted and plays in the NBA.

He also gets a full college scholarship if things don't work out and he decides he wants to go back to school at some point.

Not all G-League guys get this deal.  They have to be selected by some committee.  Most guys will still be making the normal $50K-$70K a year.

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Pretty sweet deal at the moment. 100% preferable to doing a one and done. 

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13 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Super G-League team.

 

come on michigan!  you cant match that?  where is Al Martin when you need him?  

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9 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He doesn't have to pretend to go to class.  No 20 hour a week restriction practice.  A shoe company will probably sign him to a deal with an option of he gets drafted and plays in the NBA.

He also gets a full college scholarship if things don't work out and he decides he wants to go back to school at some point.

Not all G-League guys get this deal.  They have to be selected by some committee.  Most guys will still be making the normal $50K-$70K a year.

who is giving him the scholarship?  the nba is paying for it?  thats good of them.

i wonder what the college options would be without the basketball scholarship?  if he's playing basketball he can go to stanford.  if not, is he going to go to cal riverside?

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Good for these kids!  Everyone of the top 10 recruits should be doing the same.   

Emoni Bates should try and do it right now.  

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11 minutes ago, Buddha said:

who is giving him the scholarship?  the nba is paying for it?  thats good of them.

i wonder what the college options would be without the basketball scholarship?  if he's playing basketball he can go to stanford.  if not, is he going to go to cal riverside?

The NBA is paying for it.  USA Basketball is also involved so they might be throwing in some cash as well.

This team in LA wont technically be a G-League team.  All of these kids will be put on this team and will play about 15 games a year that don't count in the standings.  They will also play games against foreign national teams.  The league is going to hire older vets to be around the team and mentor the kids.  I didn't really understand if those older guys will play or just be around as advisers.  They will also be given some life skill coaching off the court.

The kids are not just handed the $500K with no strings attached.  They get some sort of base salary and then they can make more by completing the life skills coaching.  They will get paid extra for how many games they play and they will also be traveling around the world to participating in the NBA Academies and they will get paid extra for those as well.

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15 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Looks like I had the salary stuff wrong.

 

that's not salary.  thats the total compensation package which includes things like a prospective shoe deal and the scholarship value.

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The NBA is teaching a class in how to give less and receive major praise for it.

Green should be drafted #1 next year and sign for about $10M his first year. Instead he will play for about 5% of that plus some crappy college scholarship worth maybe another $200K and people are praising the NBA for helping these kids.  

Reminds me of the old joke if you're being chased by a bear.  You don't have to be faster than the bear, you just need to be faster than your friend.  Well the NBA doesn't have to be decent to receive high praise.  They just needed to be a little less awful than the NCAA.

 

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4 hours ago, Deleterious said:

The NBA is teaching a class in how to give less and receive major praise for it.

Green should be drafted #1 next year and sign for about $10M his first year. Instead he will play for about 5% of that plus some crappy college scholarship worth maybe another $200K and people are praising the NBA for helping these kids.  

Reminds me of the old joke if you're being chased by a bear.  You don't have to be faster than the bear, you just need to be faster than your friend.  Well the NBA doesn't have to be decent to receive high praise.  They just needed to be a little less awful than the NCAA.

 

its not just the nba.  they have to have an agreement with the players union to end the one and done rule.  until then, they cant do anything about the jamal green's of the world being drafted.

so until the union decides to open the rules and let all comers into their guild, the blame does not fall exclusively on league management.

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4 hours ago, Deleterious said:

The NBA is teaching a class in how to give less and receive major praise for it.

Green should be drafted #1 next year and sign for about $10M his first year. Instead he will play for about 5% of that plus some crappy college scholarship worth maybe another $200K and people are praising the NBA for helping these kids.  

Reminds me of the old joke if you're being chased by a bear.  You don't have to be faster than the bear, you just need to be faster than your friend.  Well the NBA doesn't have to be decent to receive high praise.  They just needed to be a little less awful than the NCAA.

 

This isn’t about helping the kids.   This is about helping themselves.  Top recruits were already heading to China and Australia to forgo the NCAA.   That’s a big trip with lots of money and effort Invested by each team to watch these players.    It was also hard to gauge how they were doing playing very different styles of basketball on these foreign teams. This model makes it so much easier on all of the NBA teams to scout any prospects that want no part of the NCAA free play model (which should be all of the top guys).   

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