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6 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

I have not done a ton of research on COVID, but for those who have I am curious how it is different from some of the other pretty serious viruses we have had over the past 20-30 years or so.

SARS

H1N1

Swine Flu

Bird Flu

Zika

I recall a lot of media on those and not much in terms of precautions like today.

Nothing like what we are going through now happened before in terms of lock downs etc.  Is it simply a matter of us having better protocol and we can expect more of this going forward or is COVID that much more deadly than the others?  Was it that the others never really spread the way COVID did?  Is it something else?

This is all probably front page stuff on this thread as it has probably already been discussed, but I am trying to come to terms with what we are and where we are going in regards to flus/viruses.

The main differences with those other things has to do with asymptomatic transmission and how contagious they are.  That's the whole problem that makes COVID a worse thing to deal with as a whole.  While not as deadly as some of those other things you didn't have as many getting infected.  

You don't know you have COVID at the worst time... when it's most infectious.  it's a double whammy.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Oblong said:

The main differences with those other things has to do with asymptomatic transmission and how contagious they are.  That's the whole problem that makes COVID a worse thing to deal with as a whole.  While not as deadly as some of those other things you didn't have as many getting infected.  

You don't know you have COVID at the worst time... when it's most infectious.  it's a double whammy.

 

 

Makes sense, I thought it was something along those lines...thanks.

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1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:
US coronavirus deaths for each day in November:
Nov. 1: 402
Nov. 2: 567
Nov. 3: 1,004
Nov. 4: 1,571
Nov. 5: 1,369
Nov. 6: 1,185
Nov. 7: 878
Nov. 8: 683
Nov. 9: 789
Nov. 10: 1,305
Nov. 11: 1,534

Just threw your numbers into an Excel spreadsheet, and using the linear trend function, if trends keeps going at this rate, we would be looking at about 450,000 cases and close to 4,000 deaths per day on a national basis by New Year's Day. And we're still heading into flu/cold/virus season, and not there yet.

It's worth asking, who will do what to slow this down? Nothing on the national level, for certain, and I assume a lot of conservative states will issue a plea for "personal responsibility", or something like that.

I fear the couple of weeks following Thanksgiving might just end up being a complete ****show.

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2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Just threw your numbers into an Excel spreadsheet, and using the linear trend function, if trends keeps going at this rate, we would be looking at about 450,000 cases and close to 4,000 deaths per day on a national basis by New Year's Day. And we're still heading into flu/cold/virus season, and not there yet.

It's worth asking, who will do what to slow this down? Nothing on the national level, for certain, and I assume a lot of conservative states will issue a plea for "personal responsibility", or something like that.

I fear the couple of weeks following Thanksgiving might just end up being a complete ****show.

Scary stuff.... 

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The only good number I am seeing is that for the last couple of days Kent county has stopped hitting new highs. If Kent has seen it's peak that might mean other places, which have been a week or two behind Kent, have some possibility of being near their peaks also - maybe. Or it could just be noise...

 

EDIT: HA! not really, I just checked the numbers too early in the day. No relief in Kent to speak of....

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4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Just threw your numbers into an Excel spreadsheet, and using the linear trend function, if trends keeps going at this rate, we would be looking at about 450,000 cases and close to 4,000 deaths per day on a national basis by New Year's Day. And we're still heading into flu/cold/virus season, and not there yet.

It's worth asking, who will do what to slow this down? Nothing on the national level, for certain, and I assume a lot of conservative states will issue a plea for "personal responsibility", or something like that.

I fear the couple of weeks following Thanksgiving might just end up being a complete ****show.

another lockdown AND personal responsibility.

stop.  going.  to.  bars.

start.  wearing.  masks.

its easy for me, i can work remotely.  not so easy if you cant.  not so easy if you have little kids in school and cant.

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160,000 US cases today, 25% of the World total. MAGA!

A public health official I heard today lamented about what the national response would be if three US Airliners had been crashing out of the sky everyday for the last week with no end in sight compared the public response to this pandemic.

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... and in Omaha, anti-mask billboards.

 How do we succeed in mitigation (until the vaccine is widely available), when we have this mentality rampant out there?

Disheartening.

 

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The Universe is an uncaring and unforgiving mistress. Those who refuse to learn will eventually die of their ignorance - or as Hosea put it:

 

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My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

because thou hast rejected knowledge

 

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I would say telling people that the virus is fake was also a way to control people. 

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8 minutes ago, Yoda said:

I would say telling people that the virus is fake was also a way to control people. 

The people who are being conned are always the last to know it.

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That billboard demonstrates the MAGA Comply Paradox:

What happens if a police officer asks you to wear a mask?

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13 hours ago, Casimir said:

How do you like the bands?  I've been eyeing some on Amazon.  Been looking at some inexpensive adjustable dumbbells as well.  Ohio announced a warning about possibly going back to closing gyms (and bars/restaurants) and other in person stuff if things going down the slide, which I kind of expect to happen.

Really like the bands.  And this was surprising to me.  I have been a weights guy forever, but shoot, I have a 2 and 4 year old at home and a job that demands a lot right now.  I need to exercise.  And I need to do it at home when I have time.  Dumbbells are extremely expensive.  My stubborn *** can afford it, but it's the principal.  To that end, the bands were inexpensive and do everything I need.  I am not trying to be ripped guy, just your average busy professional with kids trying to stay in shape.  It was a pleasant surprise after all these years lifting weights in the gym and making fun of those who use bands.   

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Dumbells were very hard to find all summer. Not sure if that is changed. But with bands you can do almost everything you need. Plus some good old fashioned push-ups. 
 

but I can say after not doing weights twice a week my body notices.  I could knock out 25 high quality push-ups in no time and feel fine.  Last night I tried some and was so stiff... it had been a few weeks since I did any. 

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13 hours ago, smr-nj said:

... and in Omaha, anti-mask billboards.

 How do we succeed in mitigation (until the vaccine is widely available), when we have this mentality rampant out there?

Disheartening.

 

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It's not about a (air quotes) virus.

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14 hours ago, smr-nj said:

... and in Omaha, anti-mask billboards.

 How do we succeed in mitigation (until the vaccine is widely available), when we have this mentality rampant out there?

Disheartening.

 

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Is this for real? If so, what is WRONG with these people?

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6 minutes ago, tigerbomb13 said:

It’s getting really, really bad here. 

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We need a new color for the maps to see how much more red some areas are relative to others. 

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I got tickets to the marvel exhibit on November 30. I hope they don’t shut down museums. 

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Yesterday I went to my favorite bar/restaurant in Ferndale when they opened and had two beers while I waited for carry out.  They just announced that someone tested positive today that worked yesterday. Last time I do that for a while. 

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40 minutes ago, tigerbomb13 said:

Yesterday I went to my favorite bar/restaurant in Ferndale when they opened and had two beers while I waited for carry out.  They just announced that someone tested positive today that worked yesterday. Last time I do that for a while. 

Family member went to rent a trailer today in Howell. Proprietor was all on his horse about "Queen Whitmer". Sign said 'if you don't like that I'm not wearing a mask, take you business elsewhere".

What can you say? Another moran. Hope he lives long enough to find out he is wrong.

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Oregon is going on a two-week "freeze" starting on the 18th. Multnomah County (where Portland is) gets 4 weeks. no dine-in, no gatherings of more than 6 people from more than 2 households, all the usual jazz.

plus one of my friends was exposed at work to someone who tested positive a few days after. she doesn't have the results yet, so she's in quarantine until at least Tuesday.

so I guess my Thanksgiving will be over Zoom.

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