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2 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I think Rob's point about people helping to keep each other accountable is a big one. I have a decent universal gym setup at home and I do use it -- occasionally!

I think that applies to people who have issues with discipline (with all due respect to Rob). I don't have any issues maintaining self discipline (I've always been in good physical shape) but I do understand those who need a "buddy system" of sorts to keep motivated.

Also, as Buddha eloquently stated, people suck. Kind of joking

In all seriousness, I don't mind being around people for certain events but I prefer working out on my own. 

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8 minutes ago, Buddha said:

the only reason i would join a gym is for the weights and because i could do it at lunchtime when im at work.  ive got an hour plus commute and two kids to take care of, so its harder to find time to workout at home when things are "normal."

For sure. I don't have kids so I have a lot of free time for myself so it's all situational. I'd probably join a gym just to "get away" occasionally if I had kids and a lot of "business meetings" a.k.a. playing a lot of golf, watching sports with buddies. 😉

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

Kind of the same for me.  My gym also posts weekly workouts via FB for members.  So, the HIIT training posted on FB is the same thing that is being in person for the week.  They've been doing this since late March.  They also pushed back memberships to account for gyms being closed.  So whatever the time frame was (call it 2 months), my end of March contract expiration becomes end of May.

 

for mine, we've been doing the HIIT outside until it just started getting colder, then we've moved inside, but mask is MANDATORY the entire time you're in the gym.    Taped squares on the floor.  

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

there are so many free workout videos on you tube i have a hard time imagining going to a gym for a cardio class ever again.

weights is different.

I feel opposite.   I consciously made the decision to pay for the expertise, and I think it's been worth it so far.

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43 minutes ago, Buddha said:

the downside to gyms is that there are people there.

and i hate people.

People suck.  One of the great things about messageboards is that you get small doses of people, but you don't have to deal all with their BS! If people become a pain in the ***, you can just leave without feeling guilty or awkward.

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For me it’s not just the gym itself but the group classes.  I had a membership to some form of a gym for my entire adult life.  It wasn’t until my wife started the classes and dragged me along 7 years ago that I went with any regularity. Now it’s 3 times a week, used to be 4, and I run another 2-3 days.  I go as much to see and catch up with them as I do to work out.  I am in better shape now than I ever have been. If you had told me that I would go out and run 8 miles just for the **** of it... never. But I do that every week now.  It’s all because of people I met in my classes.  Another benefit for me to group classes is all I have to do is show up. No thinking or planning. Just tell me what to do.  After thinking all day it’s one less thing to stress about.  I just show up. 

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7 minutes ago, Oblong said:

For me it’s not just the gym itself but the group classes.  I had a membership to some form of a gym for my entire adult life.  It wasn’t until my wife started the classes and dragged me along 7 years ago that I went with any regularity. Now it’s 3 times a week, used to be 4, and I run another 2-3 days.  I go as much to see and catch up with them as I do to work out.  I am in better shape now than I ever have been. If you had told me that I would go out and run 8 miles just for the **** of it... never. But I do that every week now.  It’s all because of people I met in my classes.  Another benefit for me to group classes is all I have to do is show up. No thinking or planning. Just tell me what to do.  After thinking all day it’s one less thing to stress about.  I just show up. 

I do enjoy that about the videos I watch, just follow along. I find that using videos also gets me to do way more exercises that I wouldn’t have normally thought off.  I still like running though.  Will be using the treadmill more with it getting colder.  But that has built in videos as well, which is nice. 

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3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I coached my sons little league this summer and of the 40 teams we had zero cases. I am now coaching his middle school basketball team and I will be suprised if we play a whole season. 2 weeks in and so far so good.

 

Rec softball for my daughter was cancelled.

Rec basketball is going to try to make a go of it.  But she has plenty of dance to keep her busy and, quite frankly, I just don't want to be in charge of a team of kids right now given the circumstances.  I'm a hack as it is.  Now COVID gets tossed in?  Nah....

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2 hours ago, Buddha said:

the downside to gyms is that there are people there.

and i hate people.

Not as many people at the gyms now.

I hear you about commutes and responsibility at home.  I have one across the street from work, and work picks up part of the tab.  So I go in to work early and go over around lunchtime.

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4 hours ago, Oblong said:

 No thinking or planning. Just tell me what to do.  After thinking all day it’s one less thing to stress about.  I just show up. 

And if your gym is like mine, the workout is planned for you by some 36th degree CrossFit certified mf'er.  Expertise in the workout design.  The workout is better than if you did plan/think/stress about it.

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6 hours ago, pfife said:

And if your gym is like mine, the workout is planned for you by some 36th degree CrossFit certified mf'er.  Expertise in the workout design.  The workout is better than if you did plan/think/stress about it.

Yep.  Maybe not to that degree but they are certified and take care to plan it properly.  Once when my regular Thursday class got cancelled I tried doing it on my own at the center. They have a track with an area that has weights and a mat.  Just not the same. After 10 min I was like “ok... now that?”  I would run a few laps, so a weight, then run, etc. it’s like I couldn’t remember the 2 dozen exercises we do on a regular basis.  Back in April I tried doing stuff at home and same thing.  Luckily we started connecting on zoom calls and our instructor would lead us. Didn’t cost us anything but she figured she was working out too so why not?  

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As for covid... I think we are past the point of no return. With these numbers it’s out of control. Nothing will stomp this other than bigger lockdowns. Closing bars and restaurants won’t do anything.  Our hope now is “herd mentality” among those who still don’t give a ****. I wonder what % of the numbers are due to them?  I can’t see the majority coming from just random slip throughs because wouldn’t we have seen that in august and September too?  I think non college schools have been ok. 
 

the next hope is the vaccine but I don’t see that getting out to the general public until the new year. MI numbers at 230K.  What’s the real number?  A million?  I used to think it was a 10 to 1 ratio with confirmed to undetected but that would mean over 25%   Statistically have 25% of people I know had it?  Doubt it. So maybe we are around 10%?  Who knows. 

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the next step is that the hospitals get overwhelmed.  especially in rural areas.

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I think we are there.  But hey... think of all that freedom they have and had.  I’m sure they take comfort in that 

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20 hours ago, T&P_Fan said:

Yeah. I’ve turned part of my garage into a home gym.  I have a treadmill with iFit, so it has built in runs. But I also watch a lot of videos to change it up.  Just finished p90x, got a bit boring by the end. With the weights, you certainly can’t replace what a gym has, but I have some decent bands, and then some 25 lb dumbbells.  Better than nothing. The exercise has been a life savor through this pandemic.  Keeps me sane, and I’ve dropped 15 lbs. 

How do you like the bands?  I've been eyeing some on Amazon.  Been looking at some inexpensive adjustable dumbbells as well.  Ohio announced a warning about possibly going back to closing gyms (and bars/restaurants) and other in person stuff if things going down the slide, which I kind of expect to happen.

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7 hours ago, Oblong said:

Yep.  Maybe not to that degree but they are certified and take care to plan it properly.  Once when my regular Thursday class got cancelled I tried doing it on my own at the center. They have a track with an area that has weights and a mat.  Just not the same. After 10 min I was like “ok... now that?”  I would run a few laps, so a weight, then run, etc. it’s like I couldn’t remember the 2 dozen exercises we do on a regular basis.  Back in April I tried doing stuff at home and same thing.  Luckily we started connecting on zoom calls and our instructor would lead us. Didn’t cost us anything but she figured she was working out too so why not?  

Same here, you're not the only one.

I could move around all of the different machines that the gym had pre COVID on days with no class.  But they removed almost all  of those machines during the shutdown, keeping only a few of the more versatile machines and things like dumbbells, kettlebells, some treadmills and ellipticals.

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My wife and I were pretty fortunate on the workout front during COVID. My schedule only allowed me to ever get to class 2-3 days a week so I needed some stuff at home to fill the rest of the week. I had been building out my home gym over time and my wife had kind of capped it off when she got me a new C2 rower at Christmas last year. That with the treadmill, sandbag, kettlebells, dumbbells, and barbell/plates, and a few other random things, and I can do just about anything I need. I've actually worked out more on a weekly basis the last nine months than any stretch in the last few years.

We are in the process of buying a new house and we will be finishing the basement immediately after we move in. We have already planned out where we are putting in the right flooring for a gym space and installing a rig for pullups, squats, bench, etc.

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

How do you like the bands?  I've been eyeing some on Amazon.  Been looking at some inexpensive adjustable dumbbells as well.  Ohio announced a warning about possibly going back to closing gyms (and bars/restaurants) and other in person stuff if things going down the slide, which I kind of expect to happen.

I bought some resistance bands last week from Amazon and they're awesome, it allows me to just pace around the house doing random band exercises as well as stretching out the arms.   Mine was a 4 pack from WSAKOUE, I think they were slightly over $20.

I had no idea they were so useful until I joined this gym.

ETA:  watch slickdeals for adjustable dumbbells.   They go on that site rather regularly, even during the pandemic they showed up sometimes.  I've got the bowflex ones and they're definitely nice.     I don't think they'd be very good for exercises where you're not holding the weight by the bar though.  I haven't integrated them into my home HIIT workouts yet.   

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I started making a list of all the different movements I've done at the gym that I would be able to replicate at home.... then I programmed up a lil' diddy to randomly select X number of movements from the list (with no replacement, for the sampling nerds here) to do as my workout for days that I don't go to the gym.  Last night I selected 6 movements and wanted to do 6 rounds, but got too lazy/tired after round 4.   The coach wouldn't have let me quit.  But 4 rounds is better than 0 rounds....

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We've had a gym in the downstairs rec room since we bought our house 18 years ago. Universal machine, recumbent bike, small barbells for my wife, PowerBlocks for me. Those PowerBlocks are terrific because you can adjust the weight for each from 15 to 85 pounds and they take up almost no room. I also got my wife a treadmill for Christmas one year, which we had to completely replace when the board shorted out from a hand shock (we were told it was beyond fixing). The only thing I miss doing is legs, which I thought I was covering with bike riding, but that didn't keep me from three knee surgeries since 2013. I was about to sign up for a gym just to do legs when the pandemic hit.

I also played rec softball this year. I figured it's already a socially distant sport basically the whole time on the field, and it's pretty easy to stay six-plus feet apart in the dugout. I wouldn't even consider doing anything like volleyball, basketball, flag football, floor hockey, or anything else requiring contact.

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US coronavirus cases for each day in November:
Nov. 1: 76,771
Nov. 2: 86,589
Nov. 3: 91,910
Nov. 4: 104,296
Nov. 5: 121,289
Nov. 6: 126,731
Nov. 7: 125,100
Nov. 8: 109,177
Nov. 9: 133,819
Nov. 10: 131,990
Nov. 11: 148,302

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US coronavirus deaths for each day in November:
Nov. 1: 402
Nov. 2: 567
Nov. 3: 1,004
Nov. 4: 1,571
Nov. 5: 1,369
Nov. 6: 1,185
Nov. 7: 878
Nov. 8: 683
Nov. 9: 789
Nov. 10: 1,305
Nov. 11: 1,534

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11 hours ago, Oblong said:

As for covid... I think we are past the point of no return. With these numbers it’s out of control. Nothing will stomp this other than bigger lockdowns. Closing bars and restaurants won’t do anything.  Our hope now is “herd mentality” among those who still don’t give a ****. I wonder what % of the numbers are due to them?  I can’t see the majority coming from just random slip throughs because wouldn’t we have seen that in august and September too?  I think non college schools have been ok. 
 

the next hope is the vaccine but I don’t see that getting out to the general public until the new year. MI numbers at 230K.  What’s the real number?  A million?  I used to think it was a 10 to 1 ratio with confirmed to undetected but that would mean over 25%   Statistically have 25% of people I know had it?  Doubt it. So maybe we are around 10%?  Who knows. 

My wife has a pretty large group of friends.  Some she is closer with than others, but she stays in contact.  I have my own group of friends and share some of the same.  We know of 1 family that got it and when they got it, they ALL got it.  All from one person in their family (the youngest that lives alone - go figure) so about 16 people from one, but they are the only people we personally know who have got it.  With social media even if a person does not say they got it, would be pretty hard not to know.  10% may be a little high IMO. 

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I have not done a ton of research on COVID, but for those who have I am curious how it is different from some of the other pretty serious viruses we have had over the past 20-30 years or so.

SARS

H1N1

Swine Flu

Bird Flu

Zika

I recall a lot of media on those and not much in terms of precautions like today.

Nothing like what we are going through now happened before in terms of lock downs etc.  Is it simply a matter of us having better protocol and we can expect more of this going forward or is COVID that much more deadly than the others?  Was it that the others never really spread the way COVID did?  Is it something else?

This is all probably front page stuff on this thread as it has probably already been discussed, but I am trying to come to terms with what we are and where we are going in regards to flus/viruses.

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