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I said before I am optimistic in MI but one thing that really worries me is the restart of auto production... It will be an absolute kick in the nuts, oh ****, moment if they start up and then we see a large number of workers getting infected.... that will be very very bad..... combined with the food processing places.... if we are in early June and have to shut auto plants down again... prepare for things to go south in MI.... the big 3 are getting by now but that's with the understanding that we'll pick up right where we left off soon.... otherwise we are looking at 2009 again.

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Back on the spacing in the stadium it is even more complicated. A family of four could all sit together without causing a problem- they already interact. So you'd need groups of seats of various sizes the appropriate distance from other groups of appropriate sizes. And each group would have to have access to an aisle. 

That annoyance of the fan who has to get up 6 times a game for vaious stuff and squeeze buy becomes more than an annoyance if you all have to file out of the row to let them by.

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10 minutes ago, Oblong said:

My company started it within the last few years.... then stopped in our building halfway... luckily not our floor.  The people on those floors look absolutely miserable when we walk by. 

For some reason they think it helps attract the young workers.  Ping pong tables, cornhole...  it's ridiculous. 

 

We don't even get games. I hate the lack of privacy. I don't know who likes that. We did a survey about working from home and something like 96% of the people who responded said they preferred working from home so maybe they will change course.

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5 minutes ago, jaymo said:

Back on the spacing in the stadium it is even more complicated. A family of four could all sit together without causing a problem- they already interact. So you'd need groups of seats of various sizes the appropriate distance from other groups of appropriate sizes. And each group would have to have access to an aisle. 

That annoyance of the fan who has to get up 6 times a game for vaious stuff and squeeze buy becomes more than an annoyance if you all have to file out of the row to let them by.

I really don't see sports with fans in the seats coming back until there's a vaccine. The same with flying, casinos, restaurants, cruises and just about anything we used to do that we took for granted. I especially can't imagine sitting in a crowded doctor office.

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My company has mandated working from home and video meetings until at least the end of this year for jobs that support it.

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16 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

My company has mandated working from home and video meetings until at least the end of this year for jobs that support it.

Companies are going to realize they can have a lot of people work from home and are going to save a bundle on office space in the future. 

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5 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Companies are going to realize they can have a lot of people work from home and are going to save a bundle on office space in the future. 

While I agree with this, I think it's being vastly overstated in general. There's value in having everyone in one place and I think most offices will go back to that. 

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I don't think we'll have to worry about the anti-vaccine people with this virus. Either get the vaccine or the virus, your choice. If there's ever one developed. Any volunteers to go first? We can do like China and try it out on prisoners. Or just jailed Trump administration appointee. ??

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42 minutes ago, jaymo said:

Back on the spacing in the stadium it is even more complicated. A family of four could all sit together without causing a problem- they already interact. So you'd need groups of seats of various sizes the appropriate distance from other groups of appropriate sizes. And each group would have to have access to an aisle. 

That annoyance of the fan who has to get up 6 times a game for vaious stuff and squeeze buy becomes more than an annoyance if you all have to file out of the row to let them by.

I doubt think it would be difficult to program a seat sale screener that would sell a block of tickets and then immediate mark off a boundary around them. You would at least get a few thousand in the park and even a few thousand vs zero would make a huge difference in the telecast. A game with zero crown reaction would be just too weird.

The bigger issue is if someone orders a block of say 8. Does/should the system assume they all have to be isolated from each other or is it maybe a family with 6 kids? Is the ball park going to be liable if it turns out there are all unrelated people who just wanted a block together? The devil is always in the details.

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2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I don't think we'll have to worry about the anti-vaccine people with this virus.

I wish. You can count on them being out there.

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I would guess anyone requesting a group of seats together would have to click a couple of liabilty waiver boxes to get the tickets.

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Just now, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

I would guess anyone requesting a group of seats together would have to click a couple of liabilty waiver boxes to get the tickets.

right, something like that at minimum. And then...do you need 8 sign-offs or just the purchaser's?....etc., etc.,,,,

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i hate working from home.  too many distractions.  plus i like being in an office environment for conferences or meetings.  its easier to have them when everyone is there and not talking over each other.  cant read physical cues over the phone and zoom sucks.

we moved to a new building a few years ago with open spaces.  its better than cubes.  like anything, you get used to it.

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I also suspect programming ticket sales to provide the necessary separation is not all that challenging, but that is a guess on my part.

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1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

I had this discussion with a friend but not about sports stadiums but about any business in general. This is just my opinion; With an incubation period of 2 to 14 days, how would anyone prove just exactly where you contacted this virus? Proving you got it at a store (or ballpark) 10 days ago would mean proving you weren't in contact with a single place that you may have contacted it at. I know I didn't explain that very well, but I think you get the idea. You say you caught it at Comerica Park? Prove it.

They've been doing contact tracing through cellphone location data. I believe that's how they traced the Italian outbreak from that single soccer game in February.

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14 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

right, something like that at minimum. And then...do you need 8 sign-offs or just the purchaser's?....etc., etc.,,,,

The team sells to one individual, and then that individual assumes the responsibility / risk, no different than being hit by a batted ball.

I would think they would word it such that whatever happens with the tickets after that is not the team's concern, legally.

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They spotted the man’s naked face in the frozen food aisle.

And in the age of COVID-19, it seemed positively indecent.

The way he perused the freezers, nose and mouth uncovered, as if a virus weren’t floating around, raring to kill. Shoppers stared. A worker who was guiding customers to each checkout lane rushed to tell the store director, who quickly found the outlier.

“Excuse me, sir, but you need to have a mask to shop in this store,” Dan Graves said.

The man explained he had one in his backpack, which he’d placed inside a shopping cart. He pulled out his black mask, as if seeking absolution.

“You need to put it on,” Graves said firmly.

“You know what, just forget it,” the man snapped. As he headed for the door, he tried to get in the final word: “You must be a Democrat!”

“Have a nice day,” Graves responded.

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

They've been doing contact tracing through cellphone location data. I believe that's how they traced the Italian outbreak from that single soccer game in February.

Only if people install the apps and agree to be traced...followed...monitored....watched, whatever you wanna call it. Many, many people in America will never agree to that.

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

i hate working from home.  too many distractions.  plus i like being in an office environment for conferences or meetings.  its easier to have them when everyone is there and not talking over each other.  cant read physical cues over the phone and zoom sucks.

we moved to a new building a few years ago with open spaces.  its better than cubes.  like anything, you get used to it.

I don't hate working from home, but I agree w/ what you said about working in the office.    We have open office too and frankly it makes it much easier to troll a lot of ppl efficiently so I kinda dig it.

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8 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Only if people install the apps and agree to be traced...followed...monitored....watched, whatever you wanna call it. Many, many people in America will never agree to that.

Or else the cell phone providers could just hand over the data to the government, which is probably allowed under the privacy policy you agree to by using their service. For example, AT&T's privacy policy on this matter:

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I’ve been doing extensive research in the comments area of Facebook and Twitter and I believe that we are going about this re-opening all wrong. 
 

Rather than focusing on getting people to wear masks and social distance, we need to instead get people to abide by the only two things that can prevent the virus,  Freedom and Patriotism.

I’ve been hearing in my research groups about new studies coming out of Liberty University that will show wearing a red white and blue shirt will protect you much more than a mask.   That number goes up 3x when either an NRA or MAGA hat are worn as well.  They are also working on another promising study that shows snowflake crushing and libtard pwning in online forums can lower the spread rate of the virus by 20%.  
 

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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I doubt think it would be difficult to program a seat sale screener that would sell a block of tickets and then immediate mark off a boundary around them. You would at least get a few thousand in the park and even a few thousand vs zero would make a huge difference in the telecast. A game with zero crown reaction would be just too weird.

The bigger issue is if someone orders a block of say 8. Does/should the system assume they all have to be isolated from each other or is it maybe a family with 6 kids? Is the ball park going to be liable if it turns out there are all unrelated people who just wanted a block together? The devil is always in the details.

I’m sure they will figure out an easy way to allow fans to attend while distancing (assuming that such things are permitted).

I don’t see the liability issues. 

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9 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Only if people install the apps and agree to be traced...followed...monitored....watched, whatever you wanna call it. Many, many people in America will never agree to that.

I suspect a majority of those with smart phones will choose not to do software updates, install apps, and turn on bluetooth in public setting to allow for contact tracing.  On top of the techincal requirements and efforts required, there are many people who are not comfortable with private health data being shared with anonymous people and more so the government.  I don't blame anyone for feeling this way at all.

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I like the people who are no way the government can't follow me on the phone while simultaneously checking into every place they visit on Facebook and posting pictures of all of their meals and travels on Instagram.

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