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5 hours ago, wolverinefan said:

What? Other people needed the space and he didn't. That's not wishing harm on him. You snowflake 

^ this

If I'd gotten ill I wouldn't have even been admitted to hospital - and I'm about the same age as him. I'd have been told to stay at home until I couldn't speak.

He was on significantly less oxygen than the threshold for admittance to an intensive care bed.

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4 hours ago, stanpapi said:

I haven’t posted in almost a month. Do you know why.....??


Precisely because of what has gone on this evening.

Literally all I did on the board today was post a few tweets. They were all in the public domain and were not the least bit offensive. I posted NO commentary along with them. <snip>

I think it's possible to argue that the context in which they're posted is important. For example, posting this Tweet in the specific thread context looks as if it's deliberately attempting to provoke a reaction rather than anything else:

Not that I have a problem with that Tweet, and I imagine that I'd get along famously with eiredoire4 as is happens, but it is all about context. And by not commenting, you invite us, for some reason, to imagine our own context. No one here was wishing ill health on Johnson. That's been made explicitly clear in previous posts, but I'd be doing the board as a whole a disservice if I didn't point out that there are a great many issues with Johnson's administration and its management of the pandemic.

For example, this is a Tweet I could post randomly without context from this morning:

I mean, it probably works without much context actually, certainly where it is in this thread just now.

It's possible to be critical of Johnson without wishing him dead. Fwiw, I'm not sure that all the criticisms in that Tweet are entirely justified, certainly mass testing the public is a tricky one just now, and I'd argue that being part of the administration that has continued to cut the health service over a long period of time is actually a stronger criticism, but there you are.

Anyway, it's a lovely day. I'm going to go and dig some of my garden rather than sit in front of a screen.

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7 hours ago, MAROTH4MVP said:

Totally agree with you. Paying  some people more than they were making before being laid off is stupid.  Giving people like me who were not laid off, is stupid too. 
 

As I keep saying some entity is having to take this debt. Run away inflation, increasing debt, and bad economic policy is not the cure for a Corona economy. I am all for helping people who lost their jobs, or have reduced hours, etc. But if the government would reduce the amount of funds they were just handing out they could at least do it longer.

You, Stan, Six, and MikeyB get to own it.  You soclialists need to stop ruining our country.

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7 hours ago, MAROTH4MVP said:

Right no one ever post bad memes here in Motownsports....

A claim I never made in the first place.

The point is that maybe people would take your posts more seriously if you weren't posting crappy memes. 

7 hours ago, MAROTH4MVP said:

It’s only a bad faith argument because you don’t agree with it.

Says the guy who thinks everyone he doesn't agree with is engaged in "groupthink"

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9 hours ago, Shelton said:

Ban the trolls, @Oblong

There is literally no recourse to an unjustifiable banning on an internet message board. But of course it is justifiable.

Whonare we protecting by allowing this **** to continue. 

I’ve banned them in my own way. It doesn’t prevent them from showing up in replies, but it makes it easier to skate past them.

If we ignored them, they'd have to go away and find some other forum to fart in. I know it’s not easy because it’s cathartic to hammer them. But if we really wanted them to go away, that would be the way to do it.

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great news thanks for sharing Biggs

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8 hours ago, MAROTH4MVP said:

That is the best you have. Unimpressed work on the rhyme game.

Well I’m off to sleep because instead of hiding all day like  most of you, I have actual work to do tomorrow. Doing what many of you would be too afraid to do, which to maintain support for the homeless population. Because even though it isn’t my job or department no one else is willing to do, as some of them have tested positive. 

This post tells me that you are helping people for the recognition, not because you actually want to help them. Attention maintained behavior (that I just reinforced)!

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8 hours ago, MAROTH4MVP said:

That is the best you have. Unimpressed work on the rhyme game.

Well I’m off to sleep because instead of hiding all day like  most of you, I have actual work to do tomorrow. Doing what many of you would be too afraid to do, which to maintain support for the homeless population. Because even though it isn’t my job or department no one else is willing to do, as some of them have tested positive. 

Jesus said, "Beware of practicing your piety before others in order to be seen by them; for then you have no reward from your Father in heaven.

"So whenever you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be praised by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be done in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

"And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

"And whenever you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces so as to show others that they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that your fasting may be seen not by others but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

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3 hours ago, Blue Square Thing said:

I think it's possible to argue that the context in which they're posted is important. For example, posting this Tweet in the specific thread context looks as if it's deliberately attempting to provoke a reaction rather than anything else:

Not that I have a problem with that Tweet, and I imagine that I'd get along famously with eiredoire4 as is happens, but it is all about context. And by not commenting, you invite us, for some reason, to imagine our own context. No one here was wishing ill health on Johnson. That's been made explicitly clear in previous posts, but I'd be doing the board as a whole a disservice if I didn't point out that there are a great many issues with Johnson's administration and its management of the pandemic.

For example, this is a Tweet I could post randomly without context from this morning:

I mean, it probably works without much context actually, certainly where it is in this thread just now.

It's possible to be critical of Johnson without wishing him dead. Fwiw, I'm not sure that all the criticisms in that Tweet are entirely justified, certainly mass testing the public is a tricky one just now, and I'd argue that being part of the administration that has continued to cut the health service over a long period of time is actually a stronger criticism, but there you are.

Anyway, it's a lovely day. I'm going to go and dig some of my garden rather than sit in front of a screen.

Not commenting was an experiment. One that took the board less than 5 hours to demonstrate its bias. 

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23 minutes ago, wolverinefan said:

This post tells me that you are helping people for the recognition, not because you actually want to help them. Attention maintained behavior (that I just reinforced)!

Whatever, because I've literally told no one off of this board, what I am currently doing at work. 

My point was I am practicing what I am saying. Not blaring trumpets or making a religious statement like Chasfh. A lot of people want to reopen some businesses next month that doesn't make them bad people. 

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Just now, stanpapi said:

Not commenting was an experiment. One that took the board less than 5 hours to demonstrate its bias. 

Then why do you care enough to continue to comment? It's a ******* message board. 

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Just now, MAROTH4MVP said:

Whatever, because I've literally told no one off of this board, what I am currently doing at work. 

And yet you attempted to rub it into our faces, knowing very well that many here are also essential workers or doing things out of good will. 

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5 minutes ago, wolverinefan said:

Then why do you care enough to continue to comment? It's a ******* message board. 

Inconceivable 

If its is just a message board why do you care that he cares, that you care?

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I’ve banned them in my own way. It doesn’t prevent them from showing up in replies, but it makes it easier to skate past them.

If we ignored them, they'd have to go away and find some other forum to fart in. I know it’s not easy because it’s cathartic to hammer them. But if we really wanted them to go away, that would be the way to do it.

this is the right approach. 

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1 minute ago, ROMAD1 said:

this is the right approach. 

I did violate that right away because I saw a reply in wolverinefan's post. That should be an exception.

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3 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

this is the right approach. 

All the cool kids are shadow banned!

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Just now, chasfh said:

I did violate that right away because I saw a reply in wolverinefan's post. That should be an exception.

You'd think I'd do better, not feeding the trolls. But in particular gets my goat due to some stuff in a previous thread. Might be time for the block button. 

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1 minute ago, wolverinefan said:

You'd think I'd do better, not feeding the trolls. But in particular gets my goat due to some stuff in a previous thread. Might be time for the block button. 

Your peace of mind is worth it.

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5 minutes ago, wolverinefan said:

Then why do you care enough to continue to comment? It's a ******* message board. 

Because others who might consider posting an alternative view should fully understand that they will be met with biased moderators and general contempt for any view that does not align. I just decided to say what has been discussed privately for months.

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12 minutes ago, MAROTH4MVP said:

My point was I am practicing what I am saying.  

You say you're against socialism all the time, but you support the $6T Socialist in Chief.   Try again socialist chief.

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12 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

Not commenting was an experiment. One that took the board less than 5 hours to demonstrate its bias. 

I think it was more a case of your not commenting leading people to make assumptions about your meaning.

That's not entirely the fault of anyone else. It's always been hard enough to determine clear meaning on the internet as it is. If you deliberately attempt to cloud that meaning then I don't think you're in a position to complain about anything tbh.

But, y'know, whatever.

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3 minutes ago, stanpapi said:

Because others who might consider posting an alternative view should fully understand that they will be met with biased moderators and general contempt for any view that does not align. I just decided to say what has been discussed privately for months.

It's that we have contempt for posts that suck really bad, not because they're alternative. 

It may be shocking to you but I've been frequenting this board for 15+ years in order to fight with people with alternative views.   In other words, I'm seeking out alternative views.  And in all of those 15+ years I've had contempt for posts that suck really bad.

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This is too crazy

Early on ...Say late January,  when we were seeing this happening in China ... my employee who is a US Army reservist was telling me he was getting some conflicting orders about some deployment.  I asked him 100% facetiously and in very poor taste given where things have gone "don't they need you here to operate the bulldozers for the mass graves?"

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