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On 2/12/2020 at 12:33 PM, tiger337 said:

Todd Van Poppell.  

 

On 2/12/2020 at 2:10 PM, Buddha said:

delmon young

 

 

On 2/12/2020 at 2:59 PM, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

David Clyde

And Sidd Finch.

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Wow... It seems like on first blush, most here are more optimistic than I am. It will be interesting to see what folks think  about the Tiger's chances around the end of spring training. I don't care if some of the suspects (.i.e, Beau Burrows, Funkhauser, Cameron) get a shot at the majors this year. I don't want to see service time wasted by using Manning, Mize, etc. this year.

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I don't care about the economics of service time. I care about being interested enough to want to watch Tiger baseball. Bring Manning and Mize up as soon as possible.

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36 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I don't care about the economics of service time. I care about being interested enough to want to watch Tiger baseball. Bring Manning and Mize up and soon as possible.

Life is short. Eat desert first.  ??

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2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don't care about the economics of service time. I care about being interested enough to want to watch Tiger baseball. Bring Manning and Mize up and soon as possible.

I don't care about service time either, especially with pitchers.  

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Yeah, it's important to screw with players so they can't hit FA until they're 30+. Call players up when they are ready for the show. I'm guessing this is a primary issue with the next CBA.

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4 hours ago, chasfh said:

I would never eat desert. Too much sand.

I don't like sand.  It's coarse and rough and irritating.  And it gets everywhere.  

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4 hours ago, leflore said:

Yeah, it's important to screw with players so they can't hit FA until they're 30+. Call players up when they are ready for the show. I'm guessing this is a primary issue with the next CBA.

Actually, Tampa does this and, per dollar spent, they are baseball's best run franchise. So yeah, no service time for these guys 'til the team is ready. 

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So you think it's ok to keep a player who is ready for the bigs down in aaa solely to maintain longer team control? We're going to disagree about that one. 

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8 minutes ago, leflore said:

So you think it's ok to keep a player who is ready for the bigs down in aaa solely to maintain longer team control? We're going to disagree about that one. 

I am with you there.  I understand why they do it, but it's bad for the game.  I hope this gets addressed in the next labor agreement.  

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8 minutes ago, leflore said:

So you think it's ok to keep a player who is ready for the bigs down in aaa solely to maintain longer team control? We're going to disagree about that one. 

Just saying Tampa does that alot and they are well run.

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19 minutes ago, Chili Mac Davis said:

Just saying Tampa does that alot and they are well run.

"Well run" is relative. Tampa know how to maximize the performance of pre-arb and pre-FA guys, all right, but they are never in the running for major free agents that could help them, and when one of their own is ready to get good and paid, with few exceptions, it's "gone, gone, on to the next one ...".

They're an example of just another ownership that would rather skimp and make bank than spend to win rings. And it's more egregious with them because they're as good at maximizing low-cost talent as they are. They're almost always so close.

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and they are well run.

But for whom?

Tampa is a screwed up franchise. Seven 90 win seasons since 2008 and they've never drawn 2 million in that time, in fact 6 times less then 1.5. Only time they have ever drawn 2 million was their first year. 

So do the owners not spend to keep players because they know the fans don't care anyway - or the fans don't care because the team turns over too much, or the messed up stadium situation means no-one is happy? 

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10 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don't care about the economics of service time. I care about being interested enough to want to watch Tiger baseball. Bring Manning and Mize up as soon as possible.

We are junior GM-bots.  Wanting better baseball does not always suit the owner's sense of their bottom line interests at certain points in time, and we must always put the owner's current opinions before our own.

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4 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

 

But for whom?

Tampa is a screwed up franchise. Seven 90 win seasons since 2008 and they've never drawn 2 million in that time, in fact 6 times less then 1.5. Only time they have ever drawn 2 million was their first year. 

So do the owners not spend to keep players because they know the fans don't care anyway - or the fans don't care because the team turns over too much, or the messed up stadium situation means no-one is happy? 

tampa has never drawn fans.  they dont when they win and they sure as heck dont when they lose.

if youre ownership and run the operation as a business, wouldnt you run it like tampa runs it?

and tampa has had some of the most innovative managerial and front office people in the game.  why are we here complaining about a franchise that doesnt feel the need to overspend on 30 something baseball players and still continually puts a decent product on the field?

detroit should be so lucky as to have tampa's management in place.

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3 minutes ago, Buddha said:

tampa has never drawn fans.  they dont when they win and they sure as heck dont when they lose.

if youre ownership and run the operation as a business, wouldnt you run it like tampa runs it?

and tampa has had some of the most innovative managerial and front office people in the game.  why are we here complaining about a franchise that doesnt feel the need to overspend on 30 something baseball players and still continually puts a decent product on the field?

detroit should be so lucky as to have tampa's management in place.

Very true.

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8 minutes ago, Buddha said:

tampa has never drawn fans.  they dont when they win and they sure as heck dont when they lose.

if youre ownership and run the operation as a business, wouldnt you run it like tampa runs it?

and tampa has had some of the most innovative managerial and front office people in the game.  why are we here complaining about a franchise that doesnt feel the need to overspend on 30 something baseball players and still continually puts a decent product on the field?

detroit should be so lucky as to have tampa's management in place.

We're talking about keeping major league ready players in aaa to maximize ownership control time. If owners don't budge on that for the next CBA I expect another strike. 

For most other aspects of running an organization, I agree. Tampa is superior. But they'll never get great gate because half the area would rather play shuffleboard.

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51 minutes ago, leflore said:

We're talking about keeping major league ready players in aaa to maximize ownership control time. If owners don't budge on that for the next CBA I expect another strike. 

For most other aspects of running an organization, I agree. Tampa is superior. But they'll never get great gate because half the area would rather play shuffleboard.

keeping players who are supposedly ready for mlb in the minor leagues for an extra month in order to preserve another year of arbitration is what every major league organization should do.  its smart business.

the tigers talking about not doing that just tells me they are behind the times.  again.

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8 minutes ago, Buddha said:

keeping players who are supposedly ready for mlb in the minor leagues for an extra month in order to preserve another year of arbitration is what every major league organization should do.  its smart business.

the tigers talking about not doing that just tells me they are behind the times.  again.

meh, pitchers all get hurt.  If they are ready, bring them up and use them while you can.  I think that's why Dombrowski used to bring up pitchers early.  

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39 minutes ago, Buddha said:

keeping players who are supposedly ready for mlb in the minor leagues for an extra month in order to preserve another year of arbitration is what every major league organization should do.  its smart business.

the tigers talking about not doing that just tells me they are behind the times.  again.

Using the same line of thinking, the maximum a team is allowed to be fined is $5M for any infraction no matter what they do.    It would be smart business for teams to employ various types of illegal activities to skirt the rules to improve their chances to win.   The payout for putting a winning team is worth much more than $5M. 

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41 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Using the same line of thinking, the maximum a team is allowed to be fined is $5M for any infraction no matter what they do.    It would be smart business for teams to employ various types of illegal activities to skirt the rules to improve their chances to win.   The payout for putting a winning team is worth much more than $5M. 

why?  what the clubs are doing vis a vis not bringing up supposedly mlb ready talent until later in order to give them an extra year of control is within the rules.

how is it the same as cheating?

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