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12/9/2019 8:00 EST Detroit Pistons at New Orleans Pelicans

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20 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Wood is fun to watch.

One of the few Pistons I’m enjoying watching this year. 

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**** of a fourth quarter for Rose. 17 points just in the 4th. Including the game winner over first team all-defense (I don’t care what they say) Jrue Holiday. 

Pistons are 4-1 in their last 5.

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Fun game for the fan in me to watch. That 4th quarter and shot by Rose was pretty awesome.

But, winning these games doesn't help the cause, unless your cause is the 8th seed.

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1 hour ago, NYLion said:

Hello mediocrity, my old friend. 

We'll never get out of NBA purgatory again.

Expiring contracts, some decent young talent, all of our draft picks, and a new front office...

But yeah, easier to say there is no path forward.

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16 minutes ago, 313DetroitCity said:

Expiring contracts, some decent young talent, all of our draft picks, and a new front office...

But yeah, easier to say there is no path forward.

Mediocre expiring contracts, mediocre young talent compared to the rest of the league, mediocre draft pick most likely and it's not like they have multiple 1sts.

Unless they hit a home run with a lower draft pick, do you see a path beyond mediocre in the near future? Do you see a front office that is willing to do the right thing and blow this thing up? Do you see an owner that is willing to let the front office do a full rebuild?

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2 hours ago, NYLion said:

Mediocre expiring contracts, mediocre young talent compared to the rest of the league, mediocre draft pick most likely and it's not like they have multiple 1sts.

Unless they hit a home run with a lower draft pick, do you see a path beyond mediocre in the near future? Do you see a front office that is willing to do the right thing and blow this thing up? Do you see an owner that is willing to let the front office do a full rebuild?

As it stands, the Pistons are losing the following contracts at the end of the year: Reggie Jackson, Langston Galloway, Thon Maker and Josh Smith's dead money. It is also appearing likely that Andre Drummond will also opt out. That is a pretty significant portion of the cap space. 

The only long-term financial commitment right now is Griffin, who extends to 2022. Just about everyone else is on a rookie deal. 

In terms of the path beyond mediocre, it is to hit on Sekou, continue to see the development of Kennard, Svi, Brown, Wood and to hit on future draft picks we have (which is not impossible). It is also to use the cap space that will become available to make plays for younger guys either on the trade market or in free agency. 

 

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

Add in an aging & top dollar Griffin.

Top dollar Griffin's contract expires in 2 years, this isn't something that is hanging over your head for the rest of eternity. 

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FWIW, don't count on Detroit having any/much cap space this summer.  Almost zero if Drummond opts out and they want to keep him.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

French kid has to be a home run

of course he'll be a home run, he's french!  guinean i think but we'll take him!

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20 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

FWIW, don't count on Detroit having any/much cap space this summer.  Almost zero if Drummond opts out and they want to keep him.

If Drummond opts out and they don't offer him/Reggie/Langston a contract, you anticipate almost no cap space?

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4 minutes ago, 313DetroitCity said:

If Drummond opts out and they don't offer him/Reggie/Langston a contract, you anticipate almost no cap space?

he said if drummond opts out and they want to keep him.

if he opts out and the pistons let him walk, they should have some space.

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1 minute ago, Buddha said:

he said if drummond opts out and they want to keep him.

if he opts out and the pistons let him walk, they should have some space.

He said: "FWIW, don't count on Detroit having any/much cap space this summer."

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Just now, 313DetroitCity said:

He said: "FWIW, don't count on Detroit having any/much cap space this summer."

yeah but the second sentence says why he thinks that.

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Just now, Buddha said:

yeah but the second sentence says why he thinks that.

No, the second sentence says they will have none if they keep him. The first sentence says they won't have much if they let him go. 

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52 minutes ago, 313DetroitCity said:

As it stands, the Pistons are losing the following contracts at the end of the year: Reggie Jackson, Langston Galloway, Thon Maker and Josh Smith's dead money. It is also appearing likely that Andre Drummond will also opt out. That is a pretty significant portion of the cap space. 

The only long-term financial commitment right now is Griffin, who extends to 2022. Just about everyone else is on a rookie deal. 

In terms of the path beyond mediocre, it is to hit on Sekou, continue to see the development of Kennard, Svi, Brown, Wood and to hit on future draft picks we have (which is not impossible). It is also to use the cap space that will become available to make plays for younger guys either on the trade market or in free agency. 

 

The path beyond mediocre depends heavily on Sekou turning into Siakam. There is nothing else in the Pistons system that stands out compared to the rest of the league. 

As far as cap space is concerned, if Drummond opts out and they decide to sign him long term (and there is no indication that Gores is ready to let him go) then there's not much cap space to do anything meaningful even with the expirings off the books.

In order to proceed with a proper rebuild, they need to blow up this core. Let Drummond go if he opts out or better yet get value for him during the season, trade all the expirings, put feelers out on Griffin to see if anybody bites, accumulate as many draft picks as you can, sign a few cheapish vets to surround the young core and build this thing the right way. I don't see any indication that Gores is ready to move in this direction but hopefully I'm wrong.

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1 hour ago, 313DetroitCity said:

Top dollar Griffin's contract expires in 2 years, this isn't something that is hanging over your head for the rest of eternity. 

I was thinking it was 3 years.

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24 minutes ago, NYLion said:

The path beyond mediocre depends heavily on Sekou turning into Siakam. There is nothing else in the Pistons system that stands out compared to the rest of the league. 

As far as cap space is concerned, if Drummond opts out and they decide to sign him long term (and there is no indication that Gores is ready to let him go) then there's not much cap space to do anything meaningful even with the expirings off the books.

In order to proceed with a proper rebuild, they need to blow up this core. Let Drummond go if he opts out or better yet get value for him during the season, trade all the expirings, put feelers out on Griffin to see if anybody bites, accumulate as many draft picks as you can, sign a few cheapish vets to surround the young core and build this thing the right way. I don't see any indication that Gores is ready to move in this direction but hopefully I'm wrong.

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1 hour ago, 313DetroitCity said:

If Drummond opts out and they don't offer him/Reggie/Langston a contract, you anticipate almost no cap space?

If they let all those guys go, including Drummond, they should have roughly $40M in cap space.

If they keep him, no cap space before he signs since he will have a $40M cap hold.  Once they sign him, subtract the first year of his deal from the $40M and that is the cap space they would have.

This is assuming the cap projection of $116M is accurate.

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