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Officially TANK time!

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The Pistons' season is over. They are 4-10 with some absolutely atrocious losses. They have endless injuries. Their schedule is absolutely brutal in the second half of the season. PLEASE do the right thing and TANK the rest of the season. Trade Andre for whatever you can get. Trade Galloway for a second rounder. Let the young kids play- Kennard, Brown, Svi, Wood. Keep Sekou, Bone, King, Hall in Grand Rapids.

Be really bad the rest of the season. Rest Blake and Rose and monitor their minutes when they do play. For the love of God do not attempt to play for the 8 seed to get blasted in round one again.

The number one priority the rest of the season should be to get as many lottery balls as possible for Cole Anthony. This organization is so desperate for a play making guard it's silly. With the new lottery reform, you give yourself a chance (see the Pelicans last year) without getting the number 1 odds.

Do what's right for the franchise.... for once. This should've happened years ago, but it's never too late to do what's right. If they go into the summer with a ton of cap space, a high lottery pick, and development in their young kids, they could have a decent team next year assuming health of Griffin and Rose. But the biggest piece of that is getting a young kid that can come in and change the face of the franchise. PLEASE DO WHAT'S RIGHT! TANK! You are going NOWHERE. DO NOT PLAY FOR THE 8 SEED!

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This is so obvious and yet Gores will just keep banging his head against the same wall trying to get through it.

The most critical piece here is to trade Dre now. You have to get something for him, even if it's a second rounder and a bag of balls. You're going to have to sell short, but that's better than sacrificing your future. Going into an off-season where you're forced to resign him due to a lack of other prospects would be the worst possible outcome and doom this franchise for the next half decade or longer.

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31 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Yet that is what is likely to happen, and we know it.

I have SOME hope after the deadline last year. They recognized the situation with Bullock and made a nice move. Svi has some potential as a bench shooter + a 2nd rounder. Could probably get a similar deal with Galloway if he keeps this up.

But Gores loves him some Drummond. So I'd bet he gets another max contract with the Pistons and it'll set us back another 5 years.

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and then sign rudy gobert.

joakim noah for special assistant in charge of cheese procurement.

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Hornets To Pursue Andre Drummond

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November 22nd 2019 at 9:07am CST by Chris Crouse

Andre Drummond is expected to be one of the best available players in a weak 2020 free-agent class and Detroit will have competition for his services. Sean Deveney of Heavy.com hears that the Hornets will pursue the big man this offseason.

Charlotte has had interest in Drummond for over a year and the franchise is expected to have significant cap space this summer for the first time in years. Bismack Biyombo ($17MM), Marvin Williams ($15MM), and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist ($13MM) will all see their deals expire, setting the Hornets up for a chance to add new talent in free agency.

“He’ll be a priority there,” one league executive told Deveney. “It’s just a matter of whether they make him a priority now and give up something to get him or try to make the move later. It’s a very cautious group, Mitch Kupchak and those guys. But they might want to get this guy into the fold sooner rather than later, there’s just a lot of incentive there on both sides.”

The Hornets have interest in securing Drummond via trade before this year’s deadline, though the Pistons have shown no indication that they are willing to move the center. However, Detroit has had talks with other teams about the big man in previous years and the team’s rough has to make the franchise take a hard look in the mirror.

An offer for Drummond likely would not include one of their young, promising players (Devonte’ Graham, Miles Bridges, Malik Monk, or PJ Washington), though Deveney writes that if Charlotte includes one of the group, it’s likely to be Monk. The Hornets can keep all of those players if it waits until free agent to pursue the big man, though there are advantages to acquiring Drummond sooner, such acquiring the center’s Bird Rights and having him on the roster to help the Hornets (6-9 as of this writing) make a playoff push in the Eastern Conference.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

We send them Andre and they send us Betrayer back.

Love my Pistons, but not sure I can make that sacrifice and come back to the cold.

 

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The Hornets have interest in securing Drummond via trade before this year’s deadline, though the Pistons have shown no indication that they are willing to move the center

This part makes me both sad and angry at the same time.

 

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Since Betrayer exercised his no trade clause.  What would you take for a Drummond trade.

I would jump at expiring contracts + 2020 1st round pick.

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It'd be tough for me not to accept a decent offer from Charlotte if it gets Dre off the roster and doesn't cost us any 1st rounders. But, just to toss out some examples:

  1. Dre for Biyombo, Williams, and a 1st round pick - Pretty straightforward swap of expiring contracts. Charlotte gets the more valuable player and Dre's bird rights, so they send us a 1st to compensate. We might have to toss in another player to make rosters work, but that's easy enough.
  2. Dre for Batum, a 1st round pick, and a couple of second rounders - Charlotte gets Dre for this season, gets his rights, and doesn't have to worry about Batum exercising his contract for next season. I'll take that risk in exchange for some draft picks and the ability to push our cap space out of this terrible offseason.
  3. Dre for Zeller, Gilchrist, and a 1st - Middle ground between options 1 and 2. We get to push some of our cap space into next season and get a 1st. They get Dre for this season's playoff push and his bird rights.
  4. Dre, Thon, and Kennard for Biyombo, Williams, Monk, and 2 future firsts - Just upping the stakes here. Toss in Luke to sweeten the deal and get an extra first, plus Monk. I'm happy to make it Galloway instead if they prefer an expiring over Luke.

These are just a few options. There really are a ton of deals that work with the contracts on these teams. Our problem is a big, drunken roadblock named Tom.

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 this team is going to be awful for a very long time. They keep recycling old retreads while even terrible front office is like Charlotte at least try to take on new young guys by the grouping and get a hit on one of them.

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They’ve gone all out to win and yet they’re tanking. Imagine how effective the tanking would have been if they’d have actually tried to tank for the last couple of years. 

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At some point... Gores has to wake up and smell the coffee.

The way things are going... it just might be trade deadline 2020.

Just a WAG...

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40 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

At some point... Gores has to wake up and smell the coffee.

The way things are going... it just might be trade deadline 2020.

Just a WAG...

we've been saying that for ten years, why would he change course now?

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Didn't the NBA put into or about ready to put in effect changes to the lottery system to detour tanking?  I thought I heard that somewhere, that would be the Pistons luck, when they finally do end up going in full tank mode they'll still end up with a late lottery pick.  

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10 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Didn't the NBA put into or about ready to put in effect changes to the lottery system to detour tanking?  I thought I heard that somewhere, that would be the Pistons luck, when they finally do end up going in full tank mode they'll still end up with a late lottery pick.  

Yeah they changed things last year.

Worst team in the league had a 25% chance to get the #1 pick.  That is now down to 16%.  

You can also move into the top 4 now.  You could only move into the top 3 before.

Go to this link and scroll down to 2005 and 2019.  You can see the different odds for each draft spot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

we've been saying that for ten years, why would he change course now?

He's been holding onto Drummond for dear life...

The moment of decision is upon him: keep him and extend him at high cost, or trade him for something.

I have nothing to base it on. But I do think this year has been enlightening. And I'm just thinking the light bulb will turn on in Gores' head.

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