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9 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Dombrowski says voters are happy with the Hall of Fame as it is and they do not expect to add any players this year.   However, he did say they are always looking to make the Hall of Fame a better place and if there was an opportunity to add a quality player, they will consider it.  

LOL - you definitely had me for second there.

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16 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Dombrowski says voters are happy with the Hall of Fame as it is and they do not expect to add any players this year.   However, he did say they are always looking to make the Hall of Fame a better place and if there was an opportunity to add a quality player, they will consider it.  

I wish I had done this

 

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1 hour ago, tiger337 said:

Dombrowski says voters are happy with the Hall of Fame as it is and they do not expect to add any players this year.   However, he did say they are always looking to make the Hall of Fame a better place and if there was an opportunity to add a quality player, they will consider it.  

Brilliant.

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3 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Dombrowski says voters are happy with the Hall of Fame as it is and they do not expect to add any players this year.   However, he did say they are always looking to make the Hall of Fame a better place and if there was an opportunity to add a quality player, they will consider it.  

 

2 hours ago, Oblong said:

I wish I had done this

 

LOL ..while imagining in my mind the look on DD's face upon reading that and immediately exclaiming "I wish I had actually said that!"

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On 12/2/2019 at 12:04 PM, theroundsquare said:

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For me,  the challenge is trying to figure out which voters are most likely to vote for Lou, and which voters are least likely to vote for Lou.

I think Carew, Yount, Brett, Eck, Dombrowski are most likely to vote for Lou.  I think Murray is somewhat likely.  That is 6 of the required 12 votes in Lou's favor.

Ozzie played in the NL and may be more apt to vote for NL players because he played with them regularly.  Thus, am thinking Ozzie is one of the least likely to vote for Lou.

As of right now, 6 most likely vs 1 least likely .. for Lou.

I have done some research on the other voters ..but want to do just a little bit more.  Am not familiar enough with the rest to know whether they may or may not lean toward American League / Detroit Tiger player Lou Whitaker.  

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Ozzie Smith was originally drafted by the Tigers.  He will cast a vote about Lou.

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Well if Lou doesn't get in at least we know who's house's to toilet paper. Maybe even a bag of lit dog **** on the front porch. 

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On 12/4/2019 at 9:04 PM, Oblong said:

Ozzie is a middle infielder.  He will vote for Lou.  

Well ..Lou is the only middle infielder on the ballot.

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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/previewing-sundays-modern-baseball-era-committees-vote/
 

doesnt quite give a prediction but says that he can see inductees being some combo of Lou/Miller/Simmons.  Did not know that Ted fell one vote short.  Also from the article Tony Paul says George Brett has been a strong Lou advocate.  He sees at least 8 votes for Lou based on his past discussions. 

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11 minutes ago, Shelton said:

I hope Lou doesn’t get in. 

Be careful what you wish for.

This would mean more years of endless Whitaker belongs in the Hall of Fame talk.  

 

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seriously...marvin miller and ted simmons. And I thought it couldn't get worse than Harold Baines, who was at least a gentleman....

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I am really disappointed that Whitaker didn't make it.  Miller definitely deserved it though.  He is one of the most influential people in the history of the game.  Simmons was also a good choice, although not as worthy as Whitaker.  The earliest Lou can get another shot is 2022.  

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Results from @baseballhall committee voting, 12 needed for election: Ted Simmons, 13; Marvin Miller, 12; Dwight Evans, 8; Dave Parker, 7; Steve Garvey, 6; Lou Whitaker, 6. Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Thurman Munson and Dale Murphy each received 3 or fewer.

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4 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

I am really disappointed that Whitaker didn't make it.  Miller definitely deserved it though.  He is one of the most influential people in the history of the game.  Simmons was also a good choice, although not as worthy as Whitaker.  The earliest Lou can get another shot is 2022.  

Marvin Miller was a first class dick who didn't give a rip about illegal drugs and their impact in the 1980s. Simmons was a decent player- an 8X all star, never won a gold glove and never won a world series. In contrast....Bill Freehan was an 11X all star, 5X gold glove and of course did win a world series. Not saying Bill is a hofer, but he blows simmons away in terms of awards. And Simmons only had a 50.3 WAR to Lou's 75. In fact, the closest player in this potential class to Lou's WAR was Evans, who had a 67. Everyone else was 61 or south of that. 

That vote total is an absolute joke for lou. 

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Freehan also received mvp votes 6 times inc a 2nd, 3rd and 7th place finish in the voting. 

I'm disappointed for Lou

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Sometimes you have to be a dick when you are dealing with dicks (MLB owners).  Miller absolutely needs to be in the Hall of Fame.  He changed the game more than almost anyone.  They put freaking Bud Selig in the Hall of Fame! 

Catchers don't play long enough to accumulate a lot of WAR.  The highest was Johnny Bench (75).  Simmons was 10th all-time.  He had a 117 OPS+ which is really good for a catcher.    He was not as good as Whitaker, but still a solid selection.  I had Miller, Whitaker, Evans and Simmons as my top four choices.  Munson was good too.  

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