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these damn college pitchers are trying to do in our draft picks. Last week Tork got hit, today Martin got hit. 1/4 with a walk and a HBP for Martin, Vandy wins in extras. Martin on base when the walk off HR is hit.

Torkelson ends the day 3/5 with a K, 2B and HR. 28 runs scores as ASU falls 18-10!

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Tork has played 3 games this week, with 14 PA, 3H including 1 2B and 1 HR, 5 BB and 3K.  He has been on base each game in 2020.

 

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5 hours ago, cruzer1 said:

Tork 100% right now.

I have been pleased to read good references to athleticism and skill as a defensive first baseman.  If he turned out to be Paul Goldschmidt...I could live with that.

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39 minutes ago, Charles Liston said:

I have been pleased to read good references to athleticism and skill as a defensive first baseman.  If he turned out to be Paul Goldschmidt...I could live with that.

That would be a dream! I think we'd all take that. Maybe Greene becomes a Larry Walker. Goldschmidt and Walker and Lindor, along with the pitching studs will anchor the next 2 rings.

Please don't wake me. Not just yet. Let me dream a few minutes.

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13 hours ago, leflore said:

That would be a dream! I think we'd all take that. Maybe Greene becomes a Larry Walker. Goldschmidt and Walker and Lindor, along with the pitching studs will anchor the next 2 rings.

Please don't wake me. Not just yet. Let me dream a few minutes.

My goodness, that would be incredible.

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I hope you still have those letters of recommendation from your little league coaching days.

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Tork's line for last night's game is typical.  5 plate appearances, 2 BB, 1 H.

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I wouldn't get too comfortable or excited about Spencer Torkelson because if history is any guide, the Tigers will select Emerson Hancock with their 1/1.

During the Ilitch era the Tigers have had 31 first round picks, and 22 of them have been pitchers. Their 71% of first round selections being pitchers is the highest among all franchises. The average franchise has selected pitchers with 51% of their first round picks since 1993.

But wait, it gets better ...

Of the 22 pitchers they selected, 21 were right-handed pitchers. That's fully 68% of all first round picks in the last almost three decades used on RHPs, far above the next two franchises (Nats/Expos (50%) and Cardinals (48%), and almost double the average franchise (36%).

The one left-handed pitcher they selected in the first round (call yourself a true draft devotee if you can name him without looking it up) constitutes 3% of all Tigers' first round picks, which is the lowest percentage of any franchise! FWIW, the Cardinals are almost as averse to choosing left-handers as their pitcher in the first round (only 8%).

Emerson Hancock is a right-handed pitcher.

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Maybe they mix it up and take....Lacey the lefty :)

But I am quite sure they will take Tork and he will play first base in Detroit for many years.

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39 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I wouldn't get too comfortable or excited about Spencer Torkelson because if history is any guide, the Tigers will select Emerson Hancock with their 1/1.

During the Ilitch era the Tigers have had 31 first round picks, and 22 of them have been pitchers. Their 71% of first round selections being pitchers is the highest among all franchises. The average franchise has selected pitchers with 51% of their first round picks since 1993.

But wait, it gets better ...

Of the 22 pitchers they selected, 21 were right-handed pitchers. That's fully 68% of all first round picks in the last almost three decades used on RHPs, far above the next two franchises (Nats/Expos (50%) and Cardinals (48%), and almost double the average franchise (36%).

The one left-handed pitcher they selected in the first round (call yourself a true draft devotee if you can name him without looking it up) constitutes 3% of all Tigers' first round picks, which is the lowest percentage of any franchise! FWIW, the Cardinals are almost as averse to choosing left-handers as their pitcher in the first round (only 8%).

Emerson Hancock is a right-handed pitcher.

Andrew Miller is the one lefty I assume. 

 

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44 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I wouldn't get too comfortable or excited about Spencer Torkelson because if history is any guide, the Tigers will select Emerson Hancock with their 1/1.

During the Ilitch era the Tigers have had 31 first round picks, and 22 of them have been pitchers. Their 71% of first round selections being pitchers is the highest among all franchises. The average franchise has selected pitchers with 51% of their first round picks since 1993.

But wait, it gets better ...

Of the 22 pitchers they selected, 21 were right-handed pitchers. That's fully 68% of all first round picks in the last almost three decades used on RHPs, far above the next two franchises (Nats/Expos (50%) and Cardinals (48%), and almost double the average franchise (36%).

The one left-handed pitcher they selected in the first round (call yourself a true draft devotee if you can name him without looking it up) constitutes 3% of all Tigers' first round picks, which is the lowest percentage of any franchise! FWIW, the Cardinals are almost as averse to choosing left-handers as their pitcher in the first round (only 8%).

Emerson Hancock is a right-handed pitcher.

What do pre 2000 drafts have to do with this year's draft?  I think you're reaching a bit with your history lesson showing what the Tigers will do.

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Unless an airplane from Tennessee crashes into one from Arizona and they fall onto a field in New Mexico, there is zero chance they are taking Hancock.

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I wouldn't go that far, but close. If Hancock or someone else like Lacy (or is it Macy?) clearly separates himself from the pack I wouldn't have a problem with it. But that's an extreme longshot at this point. I could still see Al taking Martin or the 2baseman from New Mexico. I'm in the Tork camp. I used to be in the bozo camp circa 1970 while living in GR

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Unless Gonzalez crushes better pitching...i'm assuming it's Tork or Martin

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5 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Unless Gonzalez crushes better pitching...i'm assuming it's Tork or Martin

If you want to question Torkelson, the question would be: does he K too much?  It's kind of tricky to decipher because of the extreme walk rate. His K rate based on PA is fine, but Ks per balls put in play not so much. But normally that is not a metric we look at - does it mean anything? Or is K/PA enough to judge by?

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28 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Unless Gonzalez crushes better pitching...i'm assuming it's Tork or Martin

A safe assumption methinks...

Tork for power

Martin for athleticism.

They both seem appropriate 1-1 options...

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34 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Unless Gonzalez crushes better pitching...i'm assuming it's Tork or Martin

Assuming the draft is today.

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

What do pre 2000 drafts have to do with this year's draft?  I think you're reaching a bit with your history lesson showing what the Tigers will do.

Ilitches owned the team pre-2000, too. 

In any event, I’m not sayiing what the Tigers WILL DO. I just used “if history is any guide” as a setup for sharing their first round draft history. When I reviewed the data, I found it amazing they have put so many eggs in the the right-handed pitcher basket, way way beyond anyone else. Every year and every draft is different, of course, but isn’t it amazing to you how they’ve gone after one specific type of player with their first round picks so consistently?

That said, it would not floor me if they did take Emerson Hancock 1-1. Three months is a long way away, and an entire high school and college season will unfold before then.

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I just noticed Tork got a single on a 3-0 count.  That's a stat that would be hard to obtain normally.  I would imagine it would be important for a guy who walks a couple times a game to swing at 3-0 once in a while to keep opposing pitchers on their toes.

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Assuming the draft is today.

No....i think those two have already separated themselves from the pack.  Given the Tigers dearth of positional talent, I don't think there's a snowballs chance in Hades that they pass on not one, but two collegiate bats that have ceilings that justify going 1:1 to take another arm.

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46 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

No....i think those two have already separated themselves from the pack.  Given the Tigers dearth of positional talent, I don't think there's a snowballs chance in Hades that they pass on not one, but two collegiate bats that have ceilings that justify going 1:1 to take another arm.

Hope you're right!

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I'd probably prefer they pick the more athletic of the bunch .. Martin.  He has the ability to help beat other teams in more ways than one ..and not negate those potential wins with fielding gaffes.

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