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How does 2003 compare to 2019?

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1 hour ago, Oblong said:

We were doing my son's picture board for his grad party so I'm scrolling through our digital photos from 2005 and 2006... there's some from being out on the lake... 

Whoa boy.

I'm down 45 since Jan 1.  I can't believe how badly out of shape I allowed myself to get.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

I'm down 45 since Jan 1.  I can't believe how badly out of shape I allowed myself to get.

Congratulations.

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1 hour ago, LooseGoose said:

Rick Rizzs?

Good bye baseball!  Or was that Rathbun?  I couldn't tell them part.  

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2 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Good bye baseball!  Or was that Rathbun?  I couldn't tell them part.  

2 guys with identical voices.  What a disaster.

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2 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Good bye baseball!  Or was that Rathbun?  I couldn't tell them part.  

I don't remember, I don't think I listened to them do 2 games.

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1 hour ago, Charles Liston said:

2 guys with identical voices.  What a disaster.

Yeah - that is what was so weird. I couldn't keep them straight either and I'm usually  pretty good with voices.

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Personally, in 2003 I was only in my 5th year of being a Tigers fan and I didn't know anything about advanced stats and I never experienced a winning Tigers team as an avid fan.

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In 2003, the Red Wings were only  a year removed from the Stanley Cup and the Pistons were only a year away from the NBA championship. I simply diverted my attention towards them and away from the Tigers. Not really an option right now.

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12 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Good bye baseball!

Hello Faygo!

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16 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Good bye baseball!  Or was that Rathbun?  I couldn't tell them part.  

It's easy to tell them apart -- the difference is as stark as that between crap and poop.

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Couple differences for me 2003 versus 2019:

2003: I knew who Dave Dombrowski was. I was living outside Ft. Lauderdale when he built, and then rebuilt the Marlins. I knew his history with the Expos, and the White Sox before that. I had already told my brother upon DD's hire that "We are GOING to the World Series!!!" I don't think he believed me. He was upset that DD was trading all of our HOF Superstars (Weaver, etc...). We had a barren farm, courtesy of Randy Smith. No Mize-Manning-Skubal-Faedo-Burrows in the pipeline. Not even a Funk or a Deatherage or a Quibble. I was alternating between wanting the Tigers to get the record for most losses ever, and not. I was confused. But I did see 2003 as an additional stepping stone to DD getting us to the World Series. And I was certain he would get us there.

2019: AA is less of a known factor to me; however, he's been DD's right hand man since.... forever. So now that he's on his own... I see his FA moves as hit or miss, trading skills subject to "market". And I see a pipeline of prospects that I can believe in. DD had traded almost everyone on the farm and left us close to barren, again. But I like how AA has filled the pipeline again. I've said this before: This feels much more like 1975 to me than 2003. I'm not as certain of getting back to the World Series as I was when DD took over. But I'm not confused. I feel we're going in the right direction. I love all the pitching stacked up in the farm... we just need a Rotation and a Bullpen to come out of all of those TINSTAAPP guys.

AA just needs to find the right bats (and I think we're half way there...); I' pretty certain in my belief that AA will get us back to the World Series again.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Rizzs is pretty good now, FWIW.

Yes, he is.  I heard him once and didn't know who he was until I look him up later.  

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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Rizzs is pretty good now, FWIW.

He might have been back then, too.  Its just he (and anyone else) was set up for demise before he took the job because of circumstances outside of his control.

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18 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

I think he improved over time, but I'm not sure I'd trust 30 year old memories at this point.

This is true.  He was also being compared to Ernie Harwell which is a really tough act to follow.  

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2 hours ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

I think he improved over time, but I'm not sure I'd trust 30 year old memories at this point.

yup. What memory I have is that Rizz was the better of the pair.

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They had a better roster in 03'. Even though it didn't show much. Their line up wasn't bad actually. Some of the guys went on to do better elsewhere. It remains to be seen with this bunch if they can survive the league for more than a few seasons. 

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