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I would add I would prefer a progressive president even though I know she wouldn't get her platform enacted simply because there would be meaningful discussion about these topics and I think that will help forward us as a society to where we are eventually going to get to anyway.

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I would like to see a progressive President, but I agree that person wouldn't be able to do a lot.  That is fine with me.  As much as I like heading in a more progressive direction, I like things to happen slowly.  Big changes too fast can lead to unintended consequences.  

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5 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

I would like to see a progressive President, but I agree that person wouldn't be able to do a lot.  That is fine with me.  As much as I like heading in a more progressive direction, I like things to happen slowly.  Big changes too fast can lead to unintended consequences.  

I guess it depends on what one considers 'a lot'. I guess we have already normalized that ACA wasn't 'a lot' even though the country had been gridlocked on further medical system reform since Lyndon Johnson. 

 

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1 hour ago, Oblong said:

I wouldn't worry about a progressive DEM because they won't be able to make the country into anything that would worry you without a cooperative senate and even if things fall into place for the dems to take the Senate the majority wouldn't be big enough for them to put through any major agenda.  There'd be some D's who are either moderate or in moderate states that wouldn't go for anything radical.

I think you are right here, but the concern is that voters at large may not actually understand that we don't elect Kings.

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1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

I think you are right here, but the concern is that voters at large may not actually understand that we don't elect Kings.

certainly 40% or so...

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we all know this.  Its just good that people are recognizing that the Dems cannot splinter even if they nominate a centrist.

 

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5 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Need some more of this... from other candidates...

yessir

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15 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Need some more of this... from other candidates...

*cough* Beto *cough*

Is Bullock still in this thing?

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I think even just the exposure from attempting a presidential run can be helpful back home in the Senate races... National exposure not local... but it can play back home...

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3 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

I think even just the exposure from attempting a presidential run can be helpful back home in the Senate races... National exposure not local... but it can play back home...

I wonder for a guy like Bullock in a red state like Montana being on stage with more progressive candidates and being labeled a socialist will hurt? Especially when you are the governor and are campaigning and not in your state. 

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10 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I wonder for a guy like Bullock in a red state like Montana being on stage with more progressive candidates and being labeled a socialist will hurt? Especially when you are the governor and are campaigning and not in your state. 

I mean, Bullock sounds more to the right than most folks up there. And he would labeled a socialist regardless.

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They will get washed out soon enough.  Rubio was able to muscle back into his senate race in time to win. 

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25 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Mayor Pete should run for Governor of Indiana too.

A good idea.

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Mayor Pete becoming governor in one of the most anti-gay states in the country doesn't seem likely. Mike Pence had to of passed some sort of religious freedom bill that prevents him from running for governor?

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40 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

That surely would be as wide a swing in governors in a 5 year period as observed.

almost like Obama to Trump......

 

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Pete is more progressive than Obama, Pence is more conservative than Trump.

Politically, yes, but on the scale from Human to Scumbag......

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It is possible the human to scumbag gap is bigger as well.  Pence is just a different type of scumbag.

I have very little positive to say about Mike Pence.

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36 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The age skew on Sanders support is striking. I'd guess the older party members don't like his independent straddle and the younger ones don't care as much about party ID/loyalty.

Also notable that Warren plus Sanders =45%.  The total progressive vote in Iowa looks like it is the outright majority.

And most striking from the body of the article is that all 7 candidates in this list other than Warren have lost ground since earlier this summer. Warren is gaining relative to all the rest.

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