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2 hours ago, CMRivdog said:

He’s a Loser

Two time loser

And he’s not what he appears to be

 

The thing is, trump has been a loser for so long. I’ll never understand why people bent the knee for trump.  He has been the same con artist since forever.  USFL, Casinos, Trump U, multiple bankruptcies...there has never been anything successful about him.  And red America sold out for the guy with a gold toilet who would rather spit on them than to give them a dollar.   

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Just now, T&P_Fan said:

The thing is, trump has been a loser for so long. I’ll never understand why people bent the knee for trump.  He has been the same con artist since forever.  USFL, Casinos, Trump U, multiple bankruptcies...there has never been anything successful about him.  And red America sold out for the guy with a gold toilet who would rather spit on them than to give them a dollar.   

This is exactly what bothers me.  I just don't get why so many fall for his act.  It's not even a good act.   

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1 hour ago, CMRivdog said:

So, if they accept the pardons does it mean that they admit to committing one or more crimes?

Absolutely not.  Innocent people seek out pardons all of the time. You never know when someone may try to use subliminal mind control to take over your body to commit treasonous crimes.   

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12 hours ago, CMRivdog said:

So, if they accept the pardons does it mean that they admit to committing one or more crimes?

Sure, but hey, it beats 30 Years in the Hole.

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11 hours ago, tiger337 said:

This is exactly what bothers me.  I just don't get why so many fall for his act.  It's not even a good act.   

Far as I can tell, they went for Trump because they believed he was everything the politically-correct liberal Washington establishment despised, and they stick with him because they still believe he is everything the politically-correct liberal Washington establishment despises.

Plus, no matter what happens, they can never admit they were wrong to go for him in the first place.

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I gotta think those who want to run in 2024, like Cotton and Haley and maybe Pence, won't want him around.  

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I was talking more about rank and file red hats, who will never admit they're wrong about Trump even if he were caught on camera doing things that go way beyond boys will be boys.

As for the politicians, sure, they're view it politically. I would bet they have varying degrees of true belief in Trump, especially Cotton whose belief I suspect is on the high side of the scale. But I would guess even he would extract himself from Trump if and only if he believes doing so would be a winner electorally.

I think Trump will probably be a factor for at least the next two elections (assuming he lives), even as a probable felon in exile, so I don't see Cotton pulling away from him as long as that's the case. Being in exile wouldn't be a bad thing for Trump. After all, Jesus and his family went into exile to Egypt, so exile could be a badge of honor for Trump.

If she doesn't disappear into right-wing media punditry, I think Haley will cut him loose the moment she's clear of electoral political concerns. I think Pence will go back to talk radio so he can throw bombs.

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3 hours ago, Oblong said:

I gotta think those who want to run in 2024, like Cotton and Haley and maybe Pence, won't want him around.  

One of the interesting things to watch the next few years, if in fact Trump doesn't run in 2024, is how much any of these other clowns can mimic or rebrand the Trump style in their own way.

I suspect that it will not work, particularly with someone like Tom Cotton who, thankfully, has the personality of Elmer's Glue.

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1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

One of the interesting things to watch the next few years, if in fact Trump doesn't run in 2024, is how much any of these other clowns can mimic or rebrand the Trump style in their own way.

I suspect that it will not work, particularly with someone like Tom Cotton who, thankfully, has the personality of Elmer's Glue.

I keep going back to 2016. All those Repubs in the primaries and none of them got any traction but Trump. Do we think a Rubio or Cruz 8 yrs later can learn to do what they failed so badly at in 2016? Maybe, but none of them had 'the Apprentice' that allowed them all the resources of network television to spend years building a false persona. I wouldn't underestimate that. For that matter both Pence and Trump emerged initially from media rather than politics/law/political science. I'm going to guess that is the future for this GOP as that is the mindset of the GOP voter. Hannity is their future.

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1 hour ago, CMRivdog said:

Tucker Carlson/Judge Jeanne 2024

😱  😱 😱  😱 😱  😱 😱  😱 😱  😱

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6 hours ago, chasfh said:

Far as I can tell, they went for Trump because they believed he was everything the politically-correct liberal Washington establishment despised, and they stick with him because they still believe he is everything the politically-correct liberal Washington establishment despises.

Plus, no matter what happens, they can never admit they were wrong to go for him in the first place.

I get why they don't like liberals and the establishment and political correctness.  I don't really like them much either except that they are better than the alternative.   For some that's what it is, but a lot of people love the guy.  They call him a patriot who loves America and will fight for the working man AND they believe EVERYTHING he says.  It is really amazing.  

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44 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

I get why they don't like liberals and the establishment and political correctness.  I don't really like them much either except that they are better than the alternative.   For some that's what it is, but a lot of people love the guy.  They call him a patriot who loves America and will fight for the working man AND they believe EVERYTHING he says.  It is really amazing.  

They loved his "you're fired" schtick.

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I’ve been rereading the Calvin and Hobbes comic strips lately. If you substitute Donald for Calvin.....

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3 hours ago, CMRivdog said:

Tucker Carlson/Judge Jeanne 2024

What an absolute poison pill.

Or should I say suicide pill...?

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5 hours ago, mtutiger said:

 

That sports epidemiologist Zack Binney disappeared from Twitter after doing something similar from the opposite side. 

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