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Regarding the Michigan Board of Canvassers meeting tomorrow, just an observation, but part of why the anxiety level may be high is that there have been a lot of national commentators who are opining from a position of not knowing full well what the process is. (see above)

It's understandable, I don't know the process well either; but the election lawyers, Michigan legal experts and the SOS seem to be approaching this question much differently.

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1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

I would be terrified if any of these idiots was actually competent

On one hand, yes. On the other hand, the competent ones clearly seem to not want anything to do with this at this point.

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18 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Regarding the Michigan Board of Canvassers meeting tomorrow, just an observation, but part of why the anxiety level may be high is that there have been a lot of national commentators who are opining from a position of not knowing full well what the process is. (see above)

It's understandable, I don't know the process well either; but the election lawyers, Michigan legal experts and the SOS seem to be approaching this question much differently.

I saw a rather convincing threat quoting the actual law and from that it’s clear that the canvassers have no choice.  The wording and over is “shall”.  If they don’t certify then courts can make them. The governor can fire them. They can be charged with a misdemeanor. However if they fight it in court and all of that then the mission of mistrust and doubt is achieved.  Anything they can do to claim it was stolen. Facts and process doesn’t matter to the people on parler.   Biden will get the 16 votes one way or another but the R’s see it as a good thing if they can claim it was given to them by the courts. 

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1 hour ago, Oblong said:

I saw a rather convincing threat quoting the actual law and from that it’s clear that the canvassers have no choice.  The wording and over is “shall”.  If they don’t certify then courts can make them. The governor can fire them. They can be charged with a misdemeanor. However if they fight it in court and all of that then the mission of mistrust and doubt is achieved.  Anything they can do to claim it was stolen. Facts and process doesn’t matter to the people on parler.   Biden will get the 16 votes one way or another but the R’s see it as a good thing if they can claim it was given to them by the courts. 

"Shall" is a big reason why Brian Kemp, begrudgingly, certified and appointed the electors in Georgia from what I've read

Not a lawyer. But all the lawyers seem to think that word carries a lot of legal weight

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1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

"Shall" is a big reason why Brian Kemp, begrudgingly, certified and appointed the electors in Georgia from what I've read

Not a lawyer. But all the lawyers seem to think that word carries a lot of legal weight

And the thread I saw cited a 2005 Michigan SC ruling that said just that...  Shall means you have to.

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4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Anybody remember how the COVID-19 pandemic was supposed to be over on Nov 4?

And Easter, and in the summer when things warm up, and when we do bleach shots and shove lights up our asses, and....

Heckuva hoax we got going here.

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2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

One would think these unintelligent proclamations would be harmful in the future for those that utter this nonsense.

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25 minutes ago, Casimir said:

And Easter, and in the summer when things warm up, and when we do bleach shots and shove lights up our asses, and....

Heckuva hoax we got going here.

The next deadline for COVID irrelevancy is January 21.

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9 hours ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

New Jersey Congressman is trying to disbar all of Trump's attorneys. Starting with Rudy:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bill-pascrell-disbarment-rudy-giuliani-trump-election-025511630.html

That's good. Put these idiots on the defensive. Start demanding a recount in the states Trump supposedly won. 

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7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

And does not elevate Susan Rice to the meatgrinder of a political fight that the Benghazi crowd were relishing. 

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7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

And does not elevate Susan Rice to the meatgrinder of a political fight that the Benghazi crowd were relishing. 

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3 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

And does not elevate Susan Rice to the meatgrinder of a political fight that the Benghazi crowd were relishing. 

Well, there's still the rest of his cabinet. 

 

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1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Well, there's still the rest of his cabinet. 

 

That's their wet dream. 

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