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1 minute ago, T&P_Fan said:

Another batch of reporting in PA out of Pittsburgh.  Last of the military ballots. Biden 7300 to trump 1875.  Lead now 27,130. Rest in allegahny count is mail in.

Call it.  Call it.  Call it. 

Did I see it here or somewhere else -  NBC is not willing to call it until it's 35,000 vote lead for Biden...........so another hour or so? 

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4 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Did I see it here or somewhere else -  NBC is not willing to call it until it's 35,000 vote lead for Biden...........so another hour or so? 

At the rate Pennsylvania counts, it will be tomorrow. 

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9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Didn't NBC say they would call it at 35,000? It's getting close. 

Allegheny will be the county to end this, so it appears.  They couldn’t start counting til 5, since then they have had 13k reported, significantly expanding Biden’s lead. 

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As far as dragging it out............it's got to be killing Trump..........like being repeatedly stuck with 73 million needles of white hot burning hate.    As this slow dissecting of his ego takes place, I stand there like Hannibal Lecter after dusting the two cops, pausing to listen to the Goldberg Variations and soaking in the moment so sweetly as his legacy lies in a heap. 

"Ready when you are, Jared Kuschner"

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With how close this is now, I wonder if Biden is gonna hold out to speak. Even it means speaking at 2 am.  If PA continues to churn out votes they can call it tonight.  

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Santorum on CNN says he’s hearing from republicans on PA that they have some hope on provisionals. The theory is in the primary you could check a box to be sent an absentee ballot. Many republicans did that. Forgot they did.  Trump told them to vote in person and because they requested absentee they had to vote provision. Who knows...

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2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

As far as dragging it out............it's got to be killing Trump..........like being repeatedly stuck with 73 million needles of white hot burning hate.    As this slow dissecting of his ego takes place, I stand there like Hannibal Lecter after dusting the two cops, pausing to listen to the Goldberg Variations and soaking in the moment so sweetly as his legacy lies in a heap. 

 

This is something I’m struggling with right now. I’m so upset it hasn’t been called, but you’re right, stepping back and observing the slow demise is something I need to appreciate.  He held America hostage for four years, first chance the country had to bail, they did. 

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Just now, Oblong said:

Santorum on CNN says he’s hearing from republicans that they have some hope on provisionals. The theory is in the primary you could check a box to be sent an absentee ballot. Many republicans did that. Forgot they did.  Trump told them to vote in person and because they requested absentee they had to vote provision. Who knows...

From what I read, the provisionals that have been received have been from Republican counties and have matched the county vote. There's more provisionals out in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia than anywhere else. There's probably not enough and Trump hasn't shown he was over performing on them. 

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5 minutes ago, Oblong said:

Santorum on CNN says he’s hearing from republicans on PA that they have some hope on provisionals. The theory is in the primary you could check a box to be sent an absentee ballot. Many republicans did that. Forgot they did.  Trump told them to vote in person and because they requested absentee they had to vote provision. Who knows...

The spilt of mail ballots not returned is 52-36 Democrat.  I get why they use the theory, but it’s not a good one. 

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3 minutes ago, T&P_Fan said:

The spilt of mail ballots not returned is 52-36 Democrat.  I get why they use the theory, but it’s not a good one. 

I believe a lot of them are out in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. You will also have a lot of Democrats who didn't trust the mail and wanted to vote in person. Plus, provisional in prior elections have favored Democrats.

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if they called it everyone would stop watching.  of course they havent called it.

also, trump is gaining in arizona and all the talk of biden winning PA by 300k have vanished.

everyone of these will be recounted and litigated.  we wont know anything officially for a few more weeks at least.

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7 minutes ago, Buddha said:

if they called it everyone would stop watching.  of course they havent called it.

also, trump is gaining in arizona and all the talk of biden winning PA by 300k have vanished.

everyone of these will be recounted and litigated.  we wont know anything officially for a few more weeks at least.

Who said Pennsylvania would be won by 300K? Pennsylvania would pass the recount threshold at 0.5%. It's at 0.4%. They called Wisconsin and that's going to be recounted. 

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Just now, Motown Bombers said:

Who said Pennsylvania would be won by 300K? Pennsylvania would pass the recount threshold at 0.5%. It's at 0.4%. They called Wisconsin and that's going to be recounted. 

tons of people were saying biden by 300k as recently as last night.  and shelton was quoting nate silver as saying biden was going to win by 3%.

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11 minutes ago, Buddha said:

if they called it everyone would stop watching.  of course they havent called it.

also, trump is gaining in arizona and all the talk of biden winning PA by 300k have vanished.

everyone of these will be recounted and litigated.  we wont know anything officially for a few more weeks at least.

PA recount would be a horrible waste of money. 

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2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Who said Pennsylvania would be won by 300K? Pennsylvania would pass the recount threshold at 0.5%. It's at 0.4%. They called Wisconsin and that's going to be recounted. 

Latest update has it at .5 now. 

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this is an exact repeat of 2016 only this time the democrats are going to squeak by in the electoral college rather than the republicans.

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