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2 minutes ago, Melody said:

Don't these bodies always investigate complaints?  Is a complaint evidence of a crime?

Dang.  I get that y'all hate the orange man.  I do too.  But all this has been ridiculous.  

You miss the video of cops in Ft. Worth escorting Trumpers into a black polling area? Totally normal and Biden does this all the time I suppose. 

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Junior went on social media and sent the dog whistle. These Trumpers have been on stand by. They mobilized and surrounded the campaign bus and brought it down to 20-30 as a show of force and intimidation. Donald Trump encouraged it. We have flash mobs here that hold their signs and ask people to honk but they don't go out and impede traffic and intimidate Biden supporters. This was intimidation. They forced the Biden campaign to cancel the event and you have the nerve to equate this with a bunch of seniors in golf carts turning in their ballots. Unbelievable. 

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1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Flip side: armed forces brandishing weapons against local law enforcement to enforce mask mandates in the service of a leftist dystopia = not ridiculous.

also, people who did not see a Mad Max convoy somehow have no trouble seeing Antifa all the time, an organization that the FBI director said does not exist

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1 minute ago, Euphdude said:

'You are no longer my mother': How the election is dividing American families

This is a sad article and is part of the reason why I don't evelop myself in political bubbles anymore.  Hating/disowing friends and family members because they don't support the same politician you do is just plain wrong.

At some point there has to be a line though, right? Such a blanket statement is absurd. Do you think a German would have been wrong to disassociate with a Nazi family member?

I know this isn't that. But Trump isn't just a "politician". The guy encourages white supremacy and violence towards those who don't agree with him for ****'s sake. 

I can't make the determination on whether or not you should disown relatives over it. But I don't think you can either. Somewhere there is a line and it's up to the individual to decide where that is. 

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14 minutes ago, Melody said:

Dang.  I get that y'all hate the orange man.  

Is that all you have?

I call it like I see it.... and from the video, it didn't look all that good. ****, it caused a collision on one of the busiest stretches of freeway in this state. You can excuse it away as "trolling", but that doesn't make it right.

And yes, if that incident played out with Biden supporters accosting a bus from the Trump campaign, I'd say the same damn thing.

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Welll, if you’re going to help physically remove him, you’d better start working out in advance of it. I recommend focusing on squats and Romanian deadlifts.

Nah, you do it reverse raffle style so it doesn't have to come down to only 1 ticket..  Get down to 10 tickets and then they can decide to keep going or "split the pot".  At most, 2 tickets per limb with 2 as backup as needed.

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2 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Phooey.  Casimirs get overlooked again.

I just noticed on that chart that Dicks support Trump more than anyone else. 

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1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

Is that all you have?

I call it like I see it.... and from the video, it didn't look all that good. You can excuse it away as "trolling", but that doesn't make it right.

And yes, if that incident played out with Biden supporters accosting a bus from the Trump campaign, I'd say the same damn thing.

I can say with 100% certainty that if Biden supporters did this, Joe Biden would condemn it and not encourage his supporters to do it. 

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15 minutes ago, Melody said:

Read in the context of the meme I was responding to.

So you don't see a difference of intent? Really? 

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You can add MontCo to Chester County in SEPA to counties that should be done counting on Election Night.

If enough of these big D counties get their ballots processed overnight, the chance of a red mirage scenario drops considerably

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3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I can say with 100% certainty that if Biden supporters did this, Joe Biden would condemn it and not encourage his supporters to do it. 

This  -- all day long

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5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I can say with 100% certainty that if Biden supporters did this, Joe Biden would condemn it and not encourage his supporters to do it. 

So he wouldn't call them patriots?

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I just assume that any vehicle with a Trump flag is a person with a damaged psyche. 

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16 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Junior went on social media and sent the dog whistle. These Trumpers have been on stand by. They mobilized and surrounded the campaign bus and brought it down to 20-30 as a show of force and intimidation. Donald Trump encouraged it. We have flash mobs here that hold their signs and ask people to honk but they don't go out and impede traffic and intimidate Biden supporters. This was intimidation. They forced the Biden campaign to cancel the event and you have the nerve to equate this with a bunch of seniors in golf carts turning in their ballots. Unbelievable. 

Jr is looking at his world collapsing. If Daddio loses, goes to jail and cant make those payments to the Russian, Chinese, and who all else, Jr my  be looking at not only losing his lifestyle but maybe his kneecaps as well.

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37 minutes ago, Yoda said:

You miss the video of cops in Ft. Worth escorting Trumpers into a black polling area? Totally normal and Biden does this all the time I suppose. 

Okay now.  I live here and this is the kind of thing I am talking about.  The police were attempting to separate the groups because those in support of the event were becoming threatening.  Mostly surrounding and yelling in people's faces with megaphones, some chest bumping, etc.  A non event.  It should be also noted that Harris appeared at a historic black church in Stop Six, about three miles south of my house.  Stop Six is a historic African American neighborhood, so named because it was built up around Stop Six of the streetcar system.  Hence the shouting, "You are not welcome in OUR neighborhood..."   (Watch the video.)

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article246834067.html

We saw the Trump side nationally trying to make a big hairy deal of some minor incidents caught on cell phone video here during the BLM rally last summer, as though it was a big riot and looting event.  Rioting and looting did not happen, just a couple of relatively common incidents of shoplifting that happened to coincide with the protests.  Everybody needs to calm the heck down.

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Can we at least acknowledge that an incident that leads to vehicle contact on one of the busiest stretches of highway in the state kinda rises above "trolling"?

"Orange Man Bad" is not operative when people violate Texas law while operating an automobile on a busy stretch of IH-35.

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Trolling is not surrounding a campaign bus and bringing it to an almost halt and forcing that campaign even to be cancelled. That is intimidation. Trolling is requesting a bunch of tickets to a campaign event in Tulsa and not showing up. 

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12 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Can we at least acknowledge that an incident that leads to vehicle contact on one of the busiest stretches of highway in the state kinda rises above "trolling"?

"Orange Man Bad" is not operative when people violate Texas law while operating an automobile on a busy stretch of IH-35.

Can't speak to the stretch down there, but between Denton and Austin, 20-30 mph is usual speeds.   I go the back ways to avoid I-35.

And again, the vehicle contact would not have happened if the staffer had not be trying to make an unsafe lane change.  Full stop.  FBI is involved because Windy Davis was on the bus and she is a candidate for national office.

Sorry, I thought it was a good troll.    Doesn't make me want to vote for Trump, but geez y'all need some chill.

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Just now, Melody said:

Doesn't make me want to vote for Trump, but geez y'all need some chill.

Just calling it like I see it, Melody.

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Was the highway closed off to the public so that it was just the bus and Trump army playing photo op games?  Or was it still open for regular commuters?

Because, now go ahead and call me crazy, I prefer shenanigans do not occur on a highway if, say, I happen to be driving along with my family next to said shenanigans.  Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way, but sometimes I like common sensibility and safety when I'm driving.

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11 minutes ago, Melody said:

Can't speak to the stretch down there, but between Denton and Austin, 20-30 mph is usual speeds.   I go the back ways to avoid I-35.

And again, the vehicle contact would not have happened if the staffer had not be trying to make an unsafe lane change.  Full stop.  FBI is involved because Windy Davis was on the bus and she is a candidate for national office.

Sorry, I thought it was a good troll.    Doesn't make me want to vote for Trump, but geez y'all need some chill.

At some point you have to ask if maybe you're just missing something. When you have a side that is continuously threatening violence, you don't just assume it's an innocent troll. They should not be doing things like that. Sorry. 

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