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13 minutes ago, Melody said:

Glad to see this statement come across my newsfeed this morning from our Texas Speaker of the House.  There remains some sanity in the GOP.

https://www.facebook.com/SpeakerJoeStraus/posts/3348933978494642

would have been a lot stronger if he had pledged his party to work now toward getting the votes counted for *this* election. Susan Collins could have written that same statement.

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18 hours ago, Edman85 said:

First time in 12 years we would have a president who wasn't a cult figure.  We need that.

The difference is that it happened naturally with Obama based on his charisma and he just leaned into it (which some believe is unseemly), while Trump actively created his own cult.

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4 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

would have been a lot stronger if he had pledged his party to work now toward getting the votes counted for *this* election.

He is a leader within the party, but not a party leader.   It is the state party who brought this suit.   He can only pledge what his own actions will be.  Not sure how much control he has over West et al. and they are the origin of this foolishness.

Getting called a RINO a lot these days, but that just makes me like him more.

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15 hours ago, Melody said:

Seriously.   Counter protesters are to be expected.  There was no threat.  All the “OMG, some of those trucks might have guns in them!” Yet not one instance I have seen recorded involving a gun.  And I have watched multiple videos of the vehicle accident.  The dippy staffer in the car with California plates moved into that truck’s lane.  While I would personally have swerved to the shoulder to avoid the accident rather than holding my lane, that would only have been to protect my own vehicle.  

The convoy actively impeded the progress of the bus while it was on its way to keep a campaign event appointment, and they had to cancel because they weren’t be allowed to proceed to it. You can’t possibly be defending this?

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3 minutes ago, chasfh said:

The difference is that it happened naturally with Obama based on his charisma and he just leaned into it (which some believe is unseemly), while Trump actively created his own cult.

Trump's ability to do that is probably the only thing that makes me think he has some intelligence.  He is a great salesman.  

 

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1 minute ago, tiger337 said:

Trump's ability to do that is probably the only thing that makes me think he has some intelligence.  He is a great salesman.  

 

Narcissists tend to be.  Its more instinct than intelligence, I think.

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17 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Trump's ability to do that is probably the only thing that makes me think he has some intelligence.  He is a great salesman.  

 

Trump has some intelligence. No one can be a complete incompetent in literally everything and achieve what Trump has achieved. It’s just that his areas of strength are exactly the wrong areas needed to lead the country.

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4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Trump has some intelligence. No one can be a complete incompetent in literally everything and achieve what Trump has achieved. It’s just that his areas of strength are exactly the wrong areas needed to lead the country.

He is very competent in BS and self promotion.  He's got tens of millions of people believing everything he says even though most of what he says is pretty obviously BS.  I admit that takes some skill even if it is a skill I do not respect or admire.   

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I think back to being in college and watching infomercials.  Kevin Trudeau.  Tony Robbins. That’s what his schtick is.  

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3 minutes ago, Oblong said:

I think back to being in college and watching infomercials.  Kevin Trudeau.  Tony Robbins. That’s what his schtick is.  

There was a program on A&E called Flip This House. The one real estate developer was Armando Montelongo. Just like Trump and he sold seminars about how to get rich and ended up getting sued and going bankrupt. 

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speaking of spokespeople. J. James with a commercial during the Lions game either narrated by Tim Allen or someone trying to sound like him riffing off the 'pure Michigan' tourism campaign.

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41 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

 

 

He is very competent in BS and self promotion.  He's got tens of millions of people believing everything he says even though most of what he says is pretty obviously BS.  I admit that takes some skill even if it is a skill I do not respect or admire.   

Agree. I don’t buy the hypothesis that he acts merely on instinct.

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