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Today's debacle  marked the third time that the Tigers have struck out 20 times in a nine-inning game, a distinction that is theirs and theirs alone.

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14 minutes ago, six-hopper said:

Today's debacle  marked the third time that the Tigers have struck out 20 times in a nine-inning game, a distinction that is theirs and theirs alone.

Just thinking out loud on this, was it ....

Clemens in around 1986

Scherzer in 2016

This debacle against guys not even remotely close to Clemens and Scherzer?

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35 minutes ago, kj2018 said:

Just thinking out loud on this, was it ....

Clemens in around 1986

Scherzer in 2016

This debacle against guys not even remotely close to Clemens and Scherzer?

But they pitched like Clemens and Scherzer, and pitched the Tigers like they're Babe Ruth.

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Good thing the organization is working on cutting down strikeouts this year.  

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I wished Lloyd would tel tham to strike oot lest oftens.  Y does he nto do that? 

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9 hours ago, tiger337 said:

Good thing the organization is working on cutting down strikeouts this year.  

they've cut them down, milled them into lumber and are building a failing offense from them....

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this team is really hard to watch--the product on the field and the debacle in the broadcast booth.

I look forward to the day where Greiner, Harrison, Jones, Rodriguez are no longer in the lineup and Shepard, Morris, C-Mo and Inge are no longer on the airwaves.  I never thought I would miss Rod Allen.

Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

 

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1 minute ago, Tenacious D said:

this team is really hard to watch--the product on the field and the debacle in the broadcast booth.

I look forward to the day where Greiner, Harrison, Jones, Rodriguez are no longer in the lineup and Shepard, Morris, C-Mo and Inge are no longer on the airwaves.  I never thought I would miss Rod Allen.

Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

 

I have to note that Morris did exceed my expectations of him talking about Harrison the other day. He made the observation that as a pitcher, when a guy moves OFF the plate, that meant he still wanted to pitch him inside as moving off the plate indicates a hitter that doesn't  handle the inside pitch. That even though you might intuitively think a guy set up off the plate can't reach the outside pitch, guys who set up out there dive into the zone - and sure enough Harrison immediately demonstrated. 

One of his better bits of analysis, which isn't saying a lot so far - but progress.

 

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19 minutes ago, Casimir said:

2018 K/PA:  0.222.

2019 K/PA:  0.270.

Martinez and Iglesias two of the lowest K guys last year, now gone. One of the lowest K guys this year (Stewart) has been out. Miggy also windmilling at a high rate for him.

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4 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Martinez and Iglesias two of the lowest K guys last year, now gone. One of the lowest K guys this year (Stewart) has been out. Miggy also windmilling at a high rate for him.

When Stewart is one of your lowest K rate guys...

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41 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

When Stewart is one of your lowest K rate guys...

LOL - yup. But it just goes the point - it's the players, not the program. The Tigers will K less when they start replacing their high K guys with low K guys, not when they replace the MLB level hitting coach.

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3 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

LOL - yup. But it just goes the point - it's the players, not the program. The Tigers will K less when they start replacing their high K guys with low K guys, not when they replace the MLB level hitting coach.

More specifically, replace the GM and just about everyone below him. 

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5 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I have to note that Morris did exceed my expectations of him talking about Harrison the other day. He made the observation that as a pitcher, when a guy moves OFF the plate, that meant he still wanted to pitch him inside as moving off the plate indicates a hitter that doesn't  handle the inside pitch. That even though you might intuitively think a guy set up off the plate can't reach the outside pitch, guys who set up out there dive into the zone - and sure enough Harrison immediately demonstrated. 

One of his better bits of analysis, which isn't saying a lot so far - but progress.

Good for Jack.  I am as critical of him as anyone.

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Those are the kinds of pure inside the game observations I expect from analysts.  When they start getting into stuff that can be better answered by statistics, that is where they fail.  

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21 hours ago, six-hopper said:

Today's debacle  marked the third time that the Tigers have struck out 20 times in a nine-inning game, a distinction that is theirs and theirs alone.

This is a travesty! How could this organization allow that to happen three times! Something has to change! We need to find the throughline from the Clemens game to today's game and eimini-

 

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21 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I have to note that Morris did exceed my expectations of him talking about Harrison the other day. He made the observation that as a pitcher, when a guy moves OFF the plate, that meant he still wanted to pitch him inside as moving off the plate indicates a hitter that doesn't  handle the inside pitch. That even though you might intuitively think a guy set up off the plate can't reach the outside pitch, guys who set up out there dive into the zone - and sure enough Harrison immediately demonstrated. 

One of his better bits of analysis, which isn't saying a lot so far - but progress.

 

Yes, I like to hear/learn points like this during the game.

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