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Jaclyn Smith over all of them.

(as an aside, I shot multiple commericals with Kate Jackson in the early 80's.  Not a nice person).

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

OK, yes, nobody could have predicted Suarez would be hitting like he is.

However, anybody could have predicted that Simon wouldn't have pitched like the two seasons prior to the Tigers acquiring him.

Some surprising people here liked the trade, but you're right, it was widely panned here. Many were more upset at losing Jonathan Crawford than Eugenio Suarez. I myself wasn't so sure what we were giving up, but I knew what we were getting, and that it was not good.

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5 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Jaclyn Smith over all of them.

(as an aside, I shot multiple commericals with Kate Jackson in the early 80's.  Not a nice person).

Absolutely Jaclyn Smith over just about anybody in the world.

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6 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Jaclyn Smith over all of them.

(as an aside, I shot multiple commericals with Kate Jackson in the early 80's.  Not a nice person).

My wife's aunt was married to a guy named Dennis Cole, some minor actor,  who used to be married to Jaclyn Smith.  Aunt Sally and this guy had a son together who later was murdered, a roommate of Henry Rollins at the time.  They didn't kill Rollins.  It was a robbery.  

 

 

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25 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I remember when the rumors started swirling on twitter, at first all it said was that we traded for a "Reds Starting Pitcher", I remember at first we all thought that it must have been Cueto or even Bailey(who I think was still good at that time), then somebody said "What if it's Alfredo Simon?" and we all laughed it off thinking there is no way that we'd trade for him.   Atleast this is the way I remember it.  

I re-read the first half of the thread announcing the deal.

A couple defended it on the premise that Simon would match Porcello production (Rick had just been dealt for Cespedes) and Suarez wasn't going to be behind Castellanos and Iglesias so he had little value.  So no downgrade in pitching and add Cespedes.

The majority -> vast majority hated the deal and correctly predicted it would be a bad trade.

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17 hours ago, Buddha said:

loni over jan smithers any day.  any.  day.

i guess i just like tits more than the rest of this board.

This is me with redheads

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4 hours ago, Casimir said:

OK, yes, nobody could have predicted Suarez would be hitting like he is.

However, anybody could have predicted that Simon wouldn't have pitched like the two seasons prior to the Tigers acquiring him.

 

On 6/16/2014 at 8:09 PM, TigerNation said:

I'd say he his.

Obviously he won't continue to hit .375/.464/.875 forever.

But I think we can reasonably pencil him in for a .320/.400/.520 line going forward.

Obviously he's not hitting for that type of average and is hitting for more power, but his current slash line has the same OBP-BA difference of .80 and his OPS of .919 isn't far off from my .920 prediction.

P.S. There is no reason to read anymore of that old thread, my prediction then was 100% serious.

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Matt Manning chosen as AA ‘Pitcher of the Year’ by Baseball America. Not too shabby. I guess Avila got a woody on this news.

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"As Mark Anderson tweeted, marginal pieces for a marginal player." 

This quote, referring to the Simon-Suarez trade, made me laugh. At least Mark was half right. 

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5 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

"As Mark Anderson tweeted, marginal pieces for a marginal player." 

This quote, referring to the Simon-Suarez trade, made me laugh. At least Mark was half right. 

Eugenio is on his fantasy team. 

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37 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Matt Manning chosen as AA ‘Pitcher of the Year’ by Baseball America. Not too shabby. I guess Avila got a woody on this news.

Yeah I mean Avila is a fool for getting excited about one of his players named league pitcher of the year!

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5 hours ago, 1776 said:

Matt Manning chosen as AA ‘Pitcher of the Year’ by Baseball America. Not too shabby. I guess Avila got a woody on this news.

I guess I’m really getting old. I cannot believe Matt Manning’s dad  is only 49 years old. I’m sure it’s just me. I also did not realize his dad played several years in the NBA. 

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6 hours ago, SeattleMike said:

"As Mark Anderson tweeted, marginal pieces for a marginal player." 

This quote, referring to the Simon-Suarez trade, made me laugh. At least Mark was half right. 

To be fair, he was marginal at the time. Absolutely nobody saw him becoming this good. And if you did, you weren't much of a scout. He's far surpassed his expected ceiling. And good for him. I hope he's doing it naturally, as he in no way looked (looks) like a 45 HR guy. 

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8 minutes ago, Yoda said:

To be fair, he was marginal at the time. Absolutely nobody saw him becoming this good. And if you did, you weren't much of a scout. He's far surpassed his expected ceiling. And good for him. I hope he's doing it naturally, as he in no way looked (looks) like a 45 HR guy. 

It's a feel good story for everyone but Tiger fans.

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9 hours ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Yeah I mean Avila is a fool for getting excited about one of his players named league pitcher of the year!

 

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The Best Position Players Taken By The Tigers, 1987-1996

By career WAR, regardless of who it came with. 

Note:

This is missing guys we took as pitchers but made it to the bigs as positional players. 

 

NAME

Travis Fryman

YEAR

1987

ROUND

1

WAR

30.4

NOTES

 

RANK

1

Mark Mulder 1995 55 18.5 Did not sign, WAR came as pitcher 2
Bobby Higginson 1992 12 17.8   3
Tony Clark 1990 1 12.1   4
Frank Catalanotto 1992 10 12   5
Dave Roberts 1994 28 10.3   6
Gabe Kapler 1995 57 5.4   7
Doug Mirabelli 1989 6 5.3 Did not sign 8
Bubba Trammell 1994 11 4.7   9
Robert Fick 1996 5 3.5 Drafted and followed in 1995 10

 

All told, those 10 years of positional player drafts generated about 121 WAR. 

 

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1 hour ago, Walewander said:

The Best Position Players Taken By The Tigers, 1987-1996

By career WAR, regardless of who it came with. 

Note:

This is missing guys we took as pitchers but made it to the bigs as positional players. 

 

NAME

Travis Fryman

YEAR

1987

ROUND

1

WAR

30.4

NOTES

 

RANK

1

Mark Mulder 1995 55 18.5 Did not sign, WAR came as pitcher 2
Bobby Higginson 1992 12 17.8   3
Tony Clark 1990 1 12.1   4
Frank Catalanotto 1992 10 12   5
Dave Roberts 1994 28 10.3   6
Gabe Kapler 1995 57 5.4   7
Doug Mirabelli 1989 6 5.3 Did not sign 8
Bubba Trammell 1994 11 4.7   9
Robert Fick 1996 5 3.5 Drafted and followed in 1995 10

 

All told, those 10 years of positional player drafts generated about 121 WAR. 

 

That's a pretty impressive list.  Other than Fryman...yuck.

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19 minutes ago, gmoney said:

That's a pretty impressive list.  Other than Fryman...yuck.

We actually had three first round picks in 1987. Hit on Fryman, not so much on Steve Pegues or Bill Henderson. 

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Drafting a relief pitcher with the #1 pick in the draft was about as dumb as anything they have ever done.

Matt Anderson

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A scout told the Tigers that Anderson was hi. The Tigers misheard it as he was hi on Anderson.

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The Best Position Players Taken By The Tigers, 1997-2006

By career WAR, regardless of who it came with. 

Note: This is missing guys we took as pitchers but made it to the bigs as positional players. 

Name Year Round WAR
       
Curtis Granderson 2002 3 47.7
Matt Joyce 2005 12 17.2
Brandon Inge 1998 2 14.5
Cameron Maybin 2005 1 14.4
Cody Ross 1999 4 13.2
Andres Torres 1998 4 11.3
Ryan Raburn 2001 5 5
Jack Hannahan 2001 3 4.5
Nook Logan 2000 3 3.1
Casper Wells 2005 14 2.5

 

All told, these ten years of position player draftees generated 135 WAR. Yay, Grandy!

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21 hours ago, gmoney said:

That's a pretty impressive list.  Other than Fryman...yuck.

Higginson, Catalanotto and Roberts were very impressive given the rounds they were selected.  

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