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44 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

I think it's a good thing, but I know most wouldn't agree.  Regardless, silence is better than inane comments.  A good broadcaster should not have to resort to inane comments.  He could research an interesting story to tell about a batter.  

I watched the Atlanta game yesterday and their announcers are far better than Shep and Morris/Gibby imho.  Just call the game. If Det is down 8-0 no need to get all excited about a base hit. Just call it a base hit.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

Balls in play fell more frequently then, surely.  Fielding just wasn't as good as it is now (as hard as that may be for some to believe).

I once tried to field with a 2b glove made in the mid 1940's when I was a wee wisp of a lad in the very early 60's. It was a very frustrating experience.

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17 hours ago, Keepleyland2 said:

From what I can find on twitter he was fine though three innings then had one bad 4th where he gave up all the runs. Stuff looked fine in the videos, for the most part. There is video of the homer out there and he has a very weird/un casey like finish so maybe he slipped. 

I think part of its is probably dumb luck, part is he wasn't gonna go no hitter every time out, part he's probably still dealing with the injury a bit, probably a bit of fatigue as this is his first time throwing 140 innings and pitching every fifth day. 

On another site some guy who was at the game thought Mize was fine, mostly unlucky on balls in play. Another, who watched on TV, thought Mize looked bad and gave up too much hard contact, although this guy admits he is not a big fan of Mize (because his fastball is too hittable). 

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8 hours ago, pyrotigers said:

Do we know for sure the hitting streak actually happened? Maybe it was fake like the moon landing, or friendly local reporters edited the box scores to keep it going 

They wrote a song about it at the time so, yeah, it's real.

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7 hours ago, tiger337 said:

I think it's a good thing, but I know most wouldn't agree.  Regardless, silence is better than inane comments.  A good broadcaster should not have to resort to inane comments.  He could research an interesting story to tell about a batter.  

Broadcast prep? Sounds too much like work. Just wing it.

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Two players were DFA just recently, perhaps one (or both) are worth taking a flyer on. Although neither can play this year, Gohara still just turned 23 and has options left. Couzins, no options it seems, has big time power and is decent in the OF and bats LH (with a lot of Ks). Perhaps one or both might be a better bet than some of the folks on the 40 man now and a couple (not all) that have to be added after the season:

https://www.rotoworld.com/baseball/mlb/player/21061/luiz-gohara

 

pre-season '2018' he was rated at 78 in MLB Pipeline top 100                                                                                    (kind of like adding a third player in the Greene trade?)

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=atl

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https://www.rotoworld.com/baseball/mlb/player/21036/dylan-cozens

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=phi

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The Tigs are still in the 'fishing' for players aspect of the rebuild (which hopefully is moving forward) and some players from other teams may need to still be taken a chance on...

 

 

 

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Relatedly Texas dropped two crappy vets and called up a pair of kids. Josh Harrison is rehabbing at Toledo so soon he can take ML at bats from Castro Castro Lugo. Al needs to cut Harrison and Beckham and probably Mercer so Ron does not try to play them even a couple of times a week.

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agree on Harrison and Beckham.  I don't mind keeping Mercer in the mix--I don't think he's blocking anyone right now and it's nice to have a few adults on the team.

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I’m going to reserve judgment on any Harrison-related moves until he is actually called up and taking significant playing time away from someone else. 

I honestly have not been keeping track of how the players have doing. I recall that Harold Castro was hitting well, but if he started hot and then cooled off, his numbers will still appear good, where in reality he might simply be the quad A player he has been before. Whether a guy like that plays in AAA or MLB doesn’t mean much to me. 

I also don’t think we necessarily need to see guys like willi and Lugo called up. There is only a month left in the minor league season. No harm in letting those guys finish the season down there and then calling them up when rosters expand. 

In September, I want to see the young kids getting the playing time. In August, it doesn’t make much of a difference to me if they are playing in AAA or MLB. 

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5 hours ago, Alex said:

Two players were DFA just recently, perhaps one (or both) are worth taking a flyer on. Although neither can play this year, Gohara still just turned 23 and has options left. Couzins, no options it seems, has big time power and is decent in the OF and bats LH (with a lot of Ks). Perhaps one or both might be a better bet than some of the folks on the 40 man now and a couple (not all) that have to be added after the season:

https://www.rotoworld.com/baseball/mlb/player/21061/luiz-gohara

 

pre-season '2018' he was rated at 78 in MLB Pipeline top 100                                                                                    (kind of like adding a third player in the Greene trade?)

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=atl

..

https://www.rotoworld.com/baseball/mlb/player/21036/dylan-cozens

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=phi

..

The Tigs are still in the 'fishing' for players aspect of the rebuild (which hopefully is moving forward) and some players from other teams may need to still be taken a chance on...

 

 

 

These 2 are the kind of guys AA needs to pick up to see what they have....probably better than at least 2 of the guys just traded for.

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36 minutes ago, calpon said:

These 2 are the kind of guys AA needs to pick up to see what they have....probably better than at least 2 of the guys just traded for.

Without knowing the full status of who needs to be protected for the Rule V, I doubt he does it with them not being able to play this year as that would be 2 more 40 man slots.  Now if the potential for these 2 is better than people we would need to protect (or who we can pick up with the 1st pick in next years Rule V), yes, pick them up.  If they could play this season it would be a no brainer as we have plenty we can drop without really hurting any roster flexibility.

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Relief pitching, advanced scouting, sliders, split finger fastballs, the focus more on hitting home runs all has had its affect on batting averages.

Back in the day, relief pitchers were guys that were not good enough to start, not guys that specialized.  Starters would throw 300 innings, sometimes 150 pitches a game.  Facing a guy 4 times probably made it easier to get a hit.

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38 minutes ago, gmoney said:

Back in the day, relief pitchers were guys that were not good enough to start, not guys that specialized.  Starters would throw 300 innings, sometimes 150 pitches a game.  Facing a guy 4 times probably made it easier to get a hit.

Imagine the hitting if that were still the scene today!

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52 minutes ago, Tigrrfan said:

Imagine the hitting if that were still the scene today!

Forcing Jordan Zimmerman or Ryan Carpenter for 9 innings with their typical outings?  Wow.

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1 hour ago, gmoney said:

Relief pitching, advanced scouting, sliders, split finger fastballs, the focus more on hitting home runs all has had its affect on batting averages.

Back in the day, relief pitchers were guys that were not good enough to start, not guys that specialized.  Starters would throw 300 innings, sometimes 150 pitches a game.  Facing a guy 4 times probably made it easier to get a hit.

I think relievers today are still guys that are not good enough to start.  They just figure it out sooner.  The number of innings thrown by starters is certainly a big difference.  

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5 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

I think relievers today are still guys that are not good enough to start.  They just figure it out sooner.  The number of innings thrown by starters is certainly a big difference.  

Guys do specialize at relieving from a much younger age.  Guys with good arms that have trouble developing multiple pitches are great candidates for the bullpen.  Guys like Greg Olson and Matt Anderson were really high draft picks as relief pitchers.

It is kind of funny that some people make the argument that Mariano Rivera is the greatest pitcher ever.  I think the argument is silly.  Would you rather have Roger Clemens or Mariano Rivera?  Easy choice there.

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Yes...Clemens pitched no hitters by himself.  At best, Rivera might finish off a combined complete game no hitter.  It's really a no brainer

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1 hour ago, gmoney said:

It is kind of funny that some people make the argument that Mariano Rivera is the greatest pitcher ever.  I think the argument is silly.  Would you rather have Roger Clemens or Mariano Rivera?  Easy choice there.

I do not know anybody who argued Mariano Rivera as the greatest pitcher ever.  He could reasonably be argued as one of the greatest relievers ever.

Imagine Roger Clemens as a closer ..expected to pitch only 1 inning ..an inning in which his team has a lead of from 1 to 3 runs.

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2 hours ago, gmoney said:

It is kind of funny that some people make the argument that Mariano Rivera is the greatest pitcher ever.  I think the argument is silly.  Would you rather have Roger Clemens or Mariano Rivera?  Easy choice there.

 Who argues that?

I literally have never heard anyone make that argument.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

 Who argues that?

I literally have never heard anyone make that argument.

The argument is out there.  I am sure if you google it there are numerous articles about it.

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I suppose one could argue that since Mariano Rivera was the only unanimous HOF selection then he must be the best pitcher of all time. 

Personally I'd rather have Walter Johnson, Steve Carlton, Bob Gibson, etc.

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Back to prospects, I knew Erie had been playing well, but I had no idea how well. They play the split season in the Eastern League apparently. Erie was under .500 in the first half, but in the second half they are 32-11. Wow!

Having said that, Faedo pitched a perfect first three innings tonight only to get lit in the 4th.

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Here is an article from a Brown student arguing Riveria is the GOAT for *all* players, not just pitchers.

http://www.browndailyherald.com/2017/02/03/mariano-rivera-greatest-baseball-player-time/

It is, unsurprisingly, a terrible argument that makes no attempt to reconcile the fact there are other things that can (and should be) be used to evaluate a baseball player other than effectiveness on a per inning basis.

That is the only article I could find on a brief google search that suggested he was the greatest ever.  The rest claim greatest reliever ever or greatest of the past 40 years.  And those articles came right after he retired.  My sense of it is people can be a little more objective once the guy is retired for a while and they don't feel the need to ******* him because his retirement is fresh and in the news. 

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