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2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Once the weather warms up all our latin players will begin to hit again.   

How many Mexicans do we even have in our lineup right now? Gotta be close to a low point, relatively speaking. 

Just candelario and Cabrera, I think. 

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11 minutes ago, Shelton said:

How many Mexicans do we even have in our lineup right now? Gotta be close to a low point, relatively speaking. 

Just candelario and Cabrera, I think. 

That Castellanos guy is a Mexican.  Aint he?  Sounds like it. 

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34 minutes ago, Shelton said:

How many Mexicans do we even have in our lineup right now? Gotta be close to a low point, relatively speaking. 

Just candelario and Cabrera, I think. 

Zero Mexicans.

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14 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

Once the weather warms up all our latin players will begin to hit again.   

We're going to be so good then.

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22 hours ago, Mr. Bigglesworth said:

What do walks have to do with strikeouts?

That depends entirely upon how well you are seeing the baseball.  

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20 hours ago, Shelton said:

How many Mexicans do we even have in our lineup right now?

Careful!!  Some one might take that the wrong way 🙈

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Through 11 games, Tigers are now last in AL in:

Runs and runs / game - 29 - 2.63 a game

Home Runs - 3 (next closest is now the Tribe with 8

Plus most of the metrics like OBP/SLG/OPS, etc

It is still pretty amazing they are 7-4 with that anemic of an offense so far.  They have managed to scratch out some key hits and get some key runs to win some of these early games.

They ended the game with 7 guys in their lineup hitting under .200

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Three homers in 11 games?  Needless to say it looks like Arby's isn't going to have to dull out many free curly fries this year. 

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On 4/6/2019 at 2:36 PM, DumberAndLeaner said:

Careful!!  Some one might take that the wrong way 🙈

 

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We all know the Tigers are offensively challenged, and it is still early .....

 But whatever strategy they are having with their hitters is just plain bad this far.  A 2-15 with RISP (one off the umpire where if it did not hit him it would have been a DP, and the other was a bloop).  They are now hitting .165 with RISP, even worse with 2 outs and RISP.  They have 6 home runs as a team, and the gap between their runs scored and the rest of the AL is widening almost daily.

It is tough when three of your best hitters (Nick, Miggy, Candy) have ZERO home runs, only a couple of doubles, and a combined 8 RBI thru 14 games.  Of course it does not help that their leadoff hitter is hitting .135 and while he plays a solid 2B, cannot hit his way out of a paper bag right now.

Again, this team is not going to set the league on fire on offense, and it is still early, but man, what a wretched start on offense.  They are 8-6, but in reality, if they had swung the bats even average thus far, with the fantastic pitching and defense they have seen thus far, they could be 10-4 or 11-3.  Again, that is just hitting like an average team.

Regardless, they are still 8-6 and things hopefully can only get better on offense (as we know the pitching will not sustain to the level it has been at thus far).

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10 hours ago, kj2018 said:

We all know the Tigers are offensively challenged, and it is still early .....

 But whatever strategy they are having with their hitters is just plain bad this far.  A 2-15 with RISP (one off the umpire where if it did not hit him it would have been a DP, and the other was a bloop).  They are now hitting .165 with RISP, even worse with 2 outs and RISP.  They have 6 home runs as a team, and the gap between their runs scored and the rest of the AL is widening almost daily.

It is tough when three of your best hitters (Nick, Miggy, Candy) have ZERO home runs, only a couple of doubles, and a combined 8 RBI thru 14 games.  Of course it does not help that their leadoff hitter is hitting .135 and while he plays a solid 2B, cannot hit his way out of a paper bag right now.

Again, this team is not going to set the league on fire on offense, and it is still early, but man, what a wretched start on offense.  They are 8-6, but in reality, if they had swung the bats even average thus far, with the fantastic pitching and defense they have seen thus far, they could be 10-4 or 11-3.  Again, that is just hitting like an average team.

Regardless, they are still 8-6 and things hopefully can only get better on offense (as we know the pitching will not sustain to the level it has been at thus far).

I was really starting to wonder who would hit an extra base hit first this season ...Miggy or Chris Davis

Miggy was the only player in MLB making more than $20mil/yr with at least 25 at bats this season , not named Chris Davis, to not have any extra base hits, until recently .

I guess the thing of it is, it's "wrong" to have any positive expectations whatsoever  for this team, until management is done saving money,,,er,...I mean "rebuilding"...lol.

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I once tried to write a punk song that started with the lyric "Talking to the Mexicans...gotta pay for sex again"

 

That was pretty much all I had

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Great example of the Tiger's poor concept of an at bat in this first inning today. Compare the Tiger's  at bats vs the Twin's. Tiger's swinging at everything with the same approach for each pitch. The Twin's....they get behind and then cut their swing down. Tiger's strike out and Twin's get wood on the ball and get soft hits into the OF and through the IF...2 runs scored for the Twins and 0 for the Tigers.

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22 minutes ago, TigerNation said:

Hitting coaches have little to no impact on the approach of a player.

I thought the pre-game discussion was pretty good about the diminished role of managers today, and how they have been made subordinate to the analytics department. 

So then' let's fire our analytics department.

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Any chance Lloyd either

A.    has an interview where he describes some of his "teaching techniques"

B.  Comes out and says, we are working hard but we don't have much to work with

C.  Gets let go because his offenses are usually deficient and seem to very rarely maximize the strengths (no matter how small or large they are)

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To be fair to Lloyd. IMO, here is how i would stack up the hitters he has to work with this year (but i still feel in previous years he has done less with more with his hitters, his guys have usually seemed to be very poor situational hitters):

Harrison - Debacle thus far

Greiner - AAA hitter at best

Hicks - slider low and away and boom K.  

Beckham - AAA player the past 2 years, somehow is 2nd on the team in home runs thus far

Mercer - Career .250 hitter with limited power

Candy - Shows potential, but after his really good start last year, his power, obb, and avg have taken a huge hit

Miggy - Lloyd has nothing to do with his performance

Nick - Ditto

Niko - Has shown some good patience, has good doubles power and will probably hit 15-20 home runs

Mikie - He got demoted for the 2nd year in a row, maybe some time away will help him

Cristin - I hope he continues to develop his power stroke and his ability to draw walks

Jacoby - He is not a good hitter, but he continues to strike out way too much (not so much thus far this year, but he is just getting back with Lloyd)

Peterson - AAA guy all the way

At the end of the day, he has not much to work with, but with the players he has, i see not much in terms of plate approach, adjustments, etc.  Again, it is up to the players to do a lot of this, but the hitting coach is supposed to set his hitters up to be able to succeed and maximize their skills.  This is not just from this year or even last year, Lloyd has been around for a while, and we have seen the same issues over and over and over.  They are and have been a poor situational hitting team for years.  

 

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Tigers are  2nd best in the AL in runs allowed, they are overachieving at 8-7 no matter what the pitching numbers say.  Their team D has been very solid thus far.  

If their P and D were average or even back to their numbers last year, they would between 3-12 and 5-10.  

 

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That's what she said....

 

(If Miggy could still turn on a belt high FB like that...we'd be in 1st)

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On 4/15/2019 at 12:50 AM, kj2018 said:

Tigers are  2nd best in the AL in runs allowed, they are overachieving at 8-7 no matter what the pitching numbers say.  Their team D has been very solid thus far.  

If their P and D were average or even back to their numbers last year, they would between 3-12 and 5-10.  

 

Fifteen games is a small sample in any terms, and particularly for the application of the Pythagorean formula, but even so, with 40 runs scored and 49 allowed, Pythagoras says that the Tigers should be 6-9.  Two games better than the expectation after only 15 games is a lot, and suggests what most if not all of us probably already know: the Tigers' 8-7 record is a fluke, and metaphorically, winter is coming. 

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2 minutes ago, six-hopper said:

Fifteen games is a small sample in any terms, and particularly for the application of the Pythagorean formula, but even so, with 40 runs scored and 49 allowed, Pythagoras says that the Tigers should be 6-9.  Two games better than the expectation after only 15 games is a lot, and suggests what most if not all of us probably already know: the Tigers' 8-7 record is a fluke, and metaphorically, winter is coming. 

But that just proves that Gardenhire is a good manager.  

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