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11 hours ago, Casimir said:

They need 9 Brandon Inges in order to compete.  But they would probably settle for 9 Shane Halters just to finish out the season.

Instead of having Shane Halter play all 9 positions in one game, they are going to have Dixon, Goodrum, Castro, and Beckham play all 9 positions each in one game this year.

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2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Okay,   Josh Harrison is now gone.   Please stop allowing anyone to wear #1 until you retire it next year - Hall Of Fame or not.  

 

Always nice to see Eugenio Suarez has 33 home runs this season.     How's the guy we got for him doing?  

fire Dom....oh wait.

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4 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Okay,   Josh Harrison is now gone.   Please stop allowing anyone to wear #1 until you retire it next year - Hall Of Fame or not.  

 

Always nice to see Eugenio Suarez has 33 home runs this season.     How's the guy we got for him doing?  

 

 

How many positions has Suarez played for the Reds this year?  

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If anyone on this team hit like Suarez, they would very likely be playing only one position.

How many of these guys are likely to be a starter for any period of time on a 0.500 or better club?  The fact they are getting moved around is a clue the team does not view them as a likely starter over the long term.

Also, if ever there was a team and a time to try players at various positions to get an understanding of where they would best fit as well as better understand where they could sub for a week or two in case of an emergency, this is the team and the time. 

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12 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said:

How many positions has Suarez played for the Reds this year?  

He's very unversatile.

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Its also open competition for about, what, 7 or 8 different defensive positions?  Rogers is the catcher of the future.  Jones is likely the center fielder of the now.  What else should be locked up?  I can sort buy Mercer at shortstop for the rest of the season, sort of.

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Frisky Fenech:

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And when they do, Kansas City will not need to place the pressure of their entire rebuild on their shoulders, not with a starting lineup that should age well into the near future.

Soler and Dozier are both 27 years old, entering their primes. Mondesi Is 24 and shortstop Bobby Witt, Jr. — the team’s No. 2 overall pick out of high school in June — should progress rapidly through their system.

The Royals do not appear likely to spend as the Tigers have in the past, though it remains unknown how much president and CEO Christopher Ilitch will open up his pocketbook when the time comes. And when it does — most optimistically two years from now, more likely in four years — the Tigers will be dealing with a different AL Central.

The Minnesota Twins have fought the system with sage free agent signings, and have multiple impact players in their farm system. The Chicago White Sox continue to be a team on the precipice of success, though with each passing year, doubt creeps in.

And the Royals, as evident with every one of those 12 booming home runs this weekend from big bats the Tigers are missing, stand ahead of them in the rebuilding process, too.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2019/08/11/detroit-tigers-rebuild-kansas-city-royals/1982039001/

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20 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said:

Personally I don't think there is any reason to play Castro anywhere but 2B.  With Harrison injured and now gone for good, there is a gaping hole at 2B.  Castro has hit well enough up here to play regularly.   What's the point of moving him around?  

Similar thing with Dixon and 1B.  When it was announced that Miggy would not play 1B anymore, Dixon became the primary 1B.  Again, he has hit well enough to play regularly.  So why is he still getting playing time in LF and RF?  What's the point?  

Goodrum and Beckham were signed specifically to play multiple positions and Rodriguez is also at the Major League level again, who hasn't proven to hit well enough to play regularly but can play multiple positions.  That's enough flexibility right there.  

Castro hasn't hit well enough to have earned a starting spot.  His OPS is .672.  That ain't a starter's bat (well, except on the 2019 Tigers).  Its Day Game Beckham territory.

Dixon is playing regularly.  He just plays a game here or there in the OF rather than 1B.

This team is basically made up of a bunch of bench players that would be playing multiple positions if they were on most any other roster.  I don't understand the complaining about it.

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Just now, LooseGoose said:

Stating the obvious.

**** they might as well call the rebuild a failure, fire Avila, and trade everyone.

 

If they fire Avila, don't they have to hire someone before they trade everyone?

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Look at these offensive numbers.  Nobody has earned a definitive starting position anywhere on defense or in the lineup based off of merit.  Nobody.

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Goodrum, Dixon and Castro are not starters on a good team, let alone a playoff team. So their value is tied to playing multiple spots competently off the bench. Candelario is one guy they have not moved around and he has struggled. Stewart has not moved around and he has been blah. The Dodgers constantly move guys around, including an MVP candidate, and they seem to be fine.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Casimir said:

If they fire Avila, don't they have to hire someone before they trade everyone?

Piece of cake, there are many on the interwebz that have proven infallible.   Just choose one of them.

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My dog loves to catch the soft tennis ball, even at his older age and he's figured out a way to kind of toss it back at me..........and he's better than Drew VerHagen. 

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48 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Look at these offensive numbers.  Nobody has earned a definitive starting position anywhere on defense or in the lineup based off of merit.  Nobody.

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I agree. Rogers has a chance to start on a contender, and if Jacoby continues to improve, he may as well. Other than that I see bench players. And I mostly see Det's best position prospects projecting as average in the bigs. Maybe Greene shoots through the system. When the Erie boys are up with the Tigers Illitch will need to supplement with FA pieces, or trade some of the pitching prospects for position prospects. Otherwise they'll be pitching with aaaa/mlb-average position support around them. AA realizes this. He has been public with the need to supplement with FA or trade. We'll have to see if Illitch really does care about winning and opens his wallet

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59 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Goodrum, Dixon and Castro are not starters on a good team, let alone a playoff team. So their value is tied to playing multiple spots competently off the bench. Candelario is one guy they have not moved around and he has struggled. Stewart has not moved around and he has been blah. The Dodgers constantly move guys around, including an MVP candidate, and they seem to be fine.

 

 

 

They were going to move Candelario to 1B before he got injured. 

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50 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Alex Avila pitched yesterday..........and he's better than Drew VerHagen

Only yesterday?  If he were on the Tigers, he would have pitched in 3 games already. 

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With all this talk about the team full of bench players and playing them like bench players, I find it weird that Lugo has only played 3B, especially considering that he also played SS and 2B in the minors.  Why is Gardenhire singling him out?  

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Dixon and Goodrum are  two whose bats have improved over the course of the season, indicating that MLB pitchers have had less success exploiting their weaknesses. Dixon's OPS rose from 740 in the 1st half to 827 in the second  - albeit with some BaBIP luck. If he keeps it up he might be one bat that can be a useful regular player. Goodrum is more or less already penciled in as their main utility guy and his bat has been good enough for that. With Rogers and maybe Jones,  that leaves 'only' 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF spots to fill - ;)

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10 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said:

They were going to move Candelario to 1B before he got injured. 

they were, but it make almost no sense. If Candelario's bat can't hold down 3rd, how would it ever hold down 1st?

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25 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Dixon and Goodrum are  two whose bats have improved over the course of the season, indicating that MLB pitchers have had less success exploiting their weaknesses. Dixon's OPS rose from 740 in the 1st half to 827 in the second  - albeit with some BaBIP luck. If he keeps it up he might be one bat that can be a useful regular player. Goodrum is more or less already penciled in as their main utility guy and his bat has been good enough for that. With Rogers and maybe Jones,  that leaves 'only' 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF spots to fill - ;)

Good synopsis

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43 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Dixon and Goodrum are  two whose bats have improved over the course of the season, indicating that MLB pitchers have had less success exploiting their weaknesses. Dixon's OPS rose from 740 in the 1st half to 827 in the second  - albeit with some BaBIP luck. If he keeps it up he might be one bat that can be a useful regular player. Goodrum is more or less already penciled in as their main utility guy and his bat has been good enough for that. With Rogers and maybe Jones,  that leaves 'only' 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF spots to fill - ;)

Paredes - Lindor - WilliC - Reyes - Greene - 

 

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