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Who has it?  Tell me about your experience.

I see that the local channels are offered, CBS, ABC, etc.  I think all of my sports needs are covered (FSD, MLB, BTN, the ESPNs).  I miss out on the local minor league hockey team home games and playoffs, but the current cable provider I have has dropped MLB and that is higher on the priority list.

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My brother in law has gone down this road. I know at one point he had the Playstation TV service, but I think he has now switched to something else. Not sure if it's Youtube TV or maybe DirecTV Now.  With Youtube TV though you would be cutting your family off from the Kids Baking Championship, which I'm pretty sure would get you excommunicated...

Here's a fairly recent article with service comparisons.

https://clark.com/technology/tvsatellite-cable/best-streaming-tv-services/

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A buddy of mine added me to his google family, so I have free YouTubeTV.    He's in Chicago, so I get Chicago sports channels and not FSD.   

AS far as performance goes, I actually like it quite a bit.   I like the interface that I have on my AndroidTV and it's nice on the phone too.   My contract is just about to lapse with DirecTV so I've been trying to rely on YouTubeTV as much as possible to see if I can dig it, and I think it will be good.

 

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46 minutes ago, Tigertown Rats said:

My brother in law has gone down this road. I know at one point he had the Playstation TV service, but I think he has now switched to something else. Not sure if it's Youtube TV or maybe DirecTV Now.  With Youtube TV though you would be cutting your family off from the Kids Baking Championship, which I'm pretty sure would get you excommunicated...

Here's a fairly recent article with service comparisons.

https://clark.com/technology/tvsatellite-cable/best-streaming-tv-services/

Meh....

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2 hours ago, Casimir said:

Meh....

Ah ha! So you are looking for ways to get excommunicated from your family. That puts a whole different spin on things.

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I think most of these streaming services are basically the same. 

I have directvnow because it is discounted along with my att mobile plan.

PS Vue integrates with the Apple TV a bit better, though, so if I didn’t get a discount, I would probably sign up for that one. 

I tried Hulu live or whatever it is called but I didn’t like the interface and it was 30fps at the time, which was very bad and noticeable when watching sports. 

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My concern with going to a streaming service is that a number of ISP are putting a 'cap' on how much data you can use and if you go over you have to pay extra.  I suppose it still might be more economical though if you get a cheap enough streaming service.

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1 hour ago, Tigertown Rats said:

Ah ha! So you are looking for ways to get excommunicated from your family. That puts a whole different spin on things.

I would just move into your basement.  There's beer and the big screen down there with all of the channels that I need.  Work commute is the same.  I don't see where things would go wrong.

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19 minutes ago, Casimir said:

I would just move into your basement.  There's beer and the big screen down there with all of the channels that I need.  Work commute is the same.  I don't see where things would go wrong.

I hope you like Fortnite and the smell of teenage boy... Beer supply is safe from him anyway.

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32 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

My concern with going to a streaming service is that a number of ISP are putting a 'cap' on how much data you can use and if you go over you have to pay extra.  I suppose it still might be more economical though if you get a cheap enough streaming service.

You need to stream A LOT to reach the cap. 

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15 minutes ago, Shelton said:

You need to stream A LOT to reach the cap. 

this is something that holds me back as well. I have unlimited IP right now, but could see them finding some way to make that go away as soon as I drop the TV part of the bundle.

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16 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

this is something that holds me back as well. I have unlimited IP right now, but could see them finding some way to make that go away as soon as I drop the TV part of the bundle.

The only way to get close to hitting the cap is if you are basically constantly streaming/downloading during every waking hour. It’s not quite that, but pretty close. If you watch a few hours of tv a day, you won’t even come close. If you work from home and have the tv on as background basically all the time or something similar, you may hit it. 

I think the people that get close to the cap are large households with multiple people streaming at once, or gamers that are constantly downloading data when they play online. 

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There's no gaming at my crib.  Just Kids Baking Championship and Facebook in the living room and sports of some kind in the basement.

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5 minutes ago, Casimir said:

There's no gaming at my crib.  Just Kids Baking Championship and Facebook in the living room and sports of some kind in the basement.

If you plan to stream 4K content, the cap becomes much more reachable. 

We have come close a couple times in December when the kids have been out of school for a couple weeks and would have some sort of program constantly streaming and autoplaying after they have left the room. 

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33 minutes ago, Shelton said:

If you plan to stream 4K content, the cap becomes much more reachable. 

We have come close a couple times in December when the kids have been out of school for a couple weeks and would have some sort of program constantly streaming and autoplaying after they have left the room. 

Cas just recently became aware that DVD had replaced VHS. The fact that he even knows that Youtube TV is a thing kinda blows my mind. Cas won't be streaming 4k for another 10 years or so...

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When youtube tv gets A&E and Comedy Central I'll switch from directv now. First month on Direct tv we blew through our cap in half the month. Netflix Hulu Prime something streaming at all times. Got the unlimited from the cable company and it's way cheaper than the overage charge. I really liked the trial on Youtube but I gotta have those channels.

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5 hours ago, Shelton said:

You need to stream A LOT to reach the cap. 

I've got two kids who are BIG watchers of online videos.  If I start adding in all the TV we watch too, I'm worried it might be too much.

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15 hours ago, Tigertown Rats said:

Cas just recently became aware that DVD had replaced VHS. The fact that he even knows that Youtube TV is a thing kinda blows my mind. Cas won't be streaming 4k for another 10 years or so...

I like to underpromise and overdeliver.  I tried to get that in as one of the wedding vows.

In truth, the YouTube TV thing was mentioned to me before by the boss, and I do remember hearing about it during the playoffs and I think there were a few regular season games last year that were carried exclusively by YTTV.  But I ain't going to lie, none of it makes a whole lot of sense to me.  I don't understand firesticks and streaming or stuff like that.  That ain't my bag.  You plug a TV into the wall.  You plug a cable box to the wall and to the TV.  You hope for a chance at the remote once in a while.  That's what I understand.

It is interesting to see some of the different packages that are available via streaming.

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I have had YTTV for just over a year.  I still primarily use cable, but I flip on YTTV now and then.

In the past year it has improved a ton.  When I first got it everything was in 720 and now it appears most everything is 1080.  

The DVR was a disaster when I first got it.  When you recorded a show there was no option to only record new episodes.  So everything was lumped together and you had to hunt for new episodes mixed in with repeats.  There still isn't an option to record new shows, but they changed the user interface around.  So when you go to a show on the DVR it opens with the most recent season and you see your recordings listed.  Because the DVR is unlimited, you can also select a different season and see if any of those episodes were recorded if you want to go back and watch old ones.  

Early on when you recorded a show they would force you to watch their On Demand version, even if you had recorded it.  That was a problem because they contained unskippable commercials.  I just checked and that seems to be gone now, so that is nice.

The DVR is actually fairly nice now.  It is unlimited so you never have to delete anything.  If you have some movie channels you can just record whatever you want and it will stay there for 9 months I think.  You can also set favorite teams.  Say you set Michigan Football as your fav.  It will then automatically record any Michigan football game that is on.

Not 100% sure I'm ready to make the jump full time yet, but it certainly has improved a lot in the past year.  Still some issues though, like not being able to get HBO through it.  Not a huge deal since they have a standalone version or you can get it through Prime.

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We have had it where I live for two or three weeks now.  It does have sports channels which is a good thing but I’m mostly disinterested because I’m only into the Tigers anyway.  It’s too bad after all these years I can watch the University of Arizona play basketball and they really suck this year. 

But for $40 a month, it’s not that bad.  Not having been around “Cable” for years I’m surprised that it is still pretty much 57 channels and nothing on for me personally. It’s nice to be able to watch a few movies on demand even if they’re interrupted by commercials. I was surprised that the Sundance Channel airs so much mediocre drivel. I had assumed that it would be a lot of highbrow stuff which apparently it is not.  My son and I split the cost and he uses it a lot more than I do so in that respect I guess it’s a win-win. 

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On 2/21/2019 at 10:58 AM, RedRamage said:

My concern with going to a streaming service is that a number of ISP are putting a 'cap' on how much data you can use and if you go over you have to pay extra.  I suppose it still might be more economical though if you get a cheap enough streaming service.

 I have an unlimited plan with a 200 MB download speed and I pay through the nose for it.  But all you have to do is watch a handful of things in 4K and you exceed your limit.  So for me the extra $30 a month is worth it. 

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1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

 I have an unlimited plan with a 200 MB download speed and I pay through the nose for it.  But all you have to do is watch a handful of things in 4K and you exceed your limit.  So for me the extra $30 a month is worth it. 

I looked at my account today and I had used 50gb in 18 days and that's with almost all of what is viewed on the TV still coming through the 'cable' subscription piece rather than the IP piece.

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3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Netflix says 4K uses about 7GB per hour.  This guy ran a test and confirmed it used about 6.8GB per hour.

So on a 1TB cap you are still getting well over 100 hours of streaming at 4K.  

Obviously you need to adjust those numbers to take into account your other internet use.  

IIRC when I was recording a H264 component analog split from my 4K set to my  homebrew DVR I think an hour was something like double or even 3x that but I might be misremembering the numbers as it's been a while since I used that setup. And I probably would have had the compression turned down.

For me the big bit suck would be that here are  75 hr or more of Tiger games in a month.....but Fox  doesn't look like they are sending anything near 4K.

and I suppose that is another issue. In many (most?) viewing situations you may not get to choose what you get. 

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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

IIRC when I was recording a H264 component analog split from my 4K set to my  homebrew DVR I think an hour was something like double or even 3x that but I might be misremembering the numbers as it's been a while since I used that setup. And I probably would have had the compression turned down.

For me the big bit suck would be that here are  75 hr or more of Tiger games in a month.....but Fox  doesn't look like they are sending anything near 4K.

and I suppose that is another issue. In many (most?) viewing situations you may not get to choose what you get. 

Were you ripping a Blu-ray?  They wont be compressed like a Netflix stream.  Well, even Blu-ray's are compressed.  I think an hour of uncompressed 4K is something like 5TB big.  

YTTV does let you pick the resolution you view it at.  I can pick from 1080p all the way down to 144p.  Although that is on my computer.  I think on my TV the lowest resolution is 240p.

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