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4 minutes ago, Longgone said:

Their board will reflect positional value TO THE LIONS. 

Aah...

So the Lions will DEFINITELY have TE at a lower positional value than pass-rusher so there's no chance of drafting any TE at #8...

I understand you perfectly now...

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1 minute ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Aah...

So the Lions will DEFINITELY have TE at a lower positional value than pass-rusher so there's no chance of drafting any TE at #8...

I understand you perfectly now...

I wouldn't say definitely, free agency, trades may happen. Both are positions of need. I wasn't thinking Hockenson would grade that high, but he checks a lot of boxes and I wouldn't underestimate the value of a TE.

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QB, LT, and pass-rusher are the 3 top positional values in the NFL.

Everything else is a cut below, or more.

A TE can wait for later rounds.

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They definitely need a playmaker or two on offense, somebody that can actually get open, if that's a TE so be it.  Last year the Lions didn't have a single receiver in the top 90 in separation.   For all Stafford's faults it's hard to be a good QB when none of your receivers can create separation.  

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I agree. But Pass-Rusher is still the premium position, and TE/ WR can be selected in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'm not using a 1st on a TE... unless there is no other option or lesser-talented options. And Gary & Sweat are superior options... so, I say "no way"...

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46 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

QB, LT, and pass-rusher are the 3 top positional values in the NFL.

Everything else is a cut below, or more.

A TE can wait for later rounds.

Depends on the relative individual grades. The grade would just have to exceed the positional weighting.

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The latest CBS Sports mock draft has the Detroit Lions trading up and taking . . .

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I hate trading up and wouldn't do it, but if Haskins fell to the Lions at #8 and we took him and had a long-term plan to ditch Stafford I'd be thrilled!

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3 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The latest CBS Sports mock draft has the Detroit Lions trading up and taking . . .

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I hate trading up and wouldn't do it, but if Haskins fell to the Lions at #8 and we took him and had a long-term plan to ditch Stafford I'd be thrilled!

Why would we do that when we have Connor Cook? 

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1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Why would we do that when we have Connor Cook? 

Cook is the mid-season starter after Stafford get jetted out of the starting job haha. I'm guessing you are against taking Haskins if he falls to us at #8 and in favor of continuing to pay the stat sheet superstar $29 mil for another couple of seasons?

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I would not be against drafting a Stafford replacement but to me I just don't think this years class is the one to do it in.  Murray intrigues me and he def has Superstar potential but he will likely be gone way before us so it doesn't matter. 

I'd rather roll the dice with Stafford one more year.  If he repeats his performance of last year we are likely going to be picking early again anyway and next year should be a much stronger QB class.  

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I'm not clamoring for us to draft a Stafford replacement by any means, but if one of Murray or Haskins miraculously fell to us at #8 I think I would pull the trigger and draft one of them, even though Montez Sweat  would be my primary target. I wish Stafford much success and hope he turns it around and makes us a playoff team next year, but I of course have my reservations and wouldn't be opposed to having a replacement waiting in the wings.

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30 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I'm not clamoring for us to draft a Stafford replacement by any means, but if one of Murray or Haskins miraculously fell to us at #8 I think I would pull the trigger and draft one of them, even though Montez Sweat  would be my primary target. I wish Stafford much success and hope he turns it around and makes us a playoff team next year, but I of course have my reservations and wouldn't be opposed to having a replacement waiting in the wings.

I think in that case you have hit the jackpot with the value of your pick and you can actually pull off the rare “trade down” that everyone always wants to do. 

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Every draft has a QB or two that is going to be a star. Most end up like Connor Cook. I hope Stafford gets traded to a good team instead of being blamed for trying to carrying a team with no running game or defense year in and year out. 

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They are clearing a ton of cap space NOW for a reason............Wouldn't shock me at all if they sent Stafford packing.   

But for what and with who?    Would  you get a first round pick for him?   I doubt it.  Maybe a 2nd,  probably a 3rd.  

 

Last year was very odd.  It seemed like he kind of gave up.    My thought is that Patricia was forced to keep Jim Bob (Like Quinn was forced to keep Caldwell) to placate Stafford, he didn't want to keep Jim Bob and so he clamped down on what Jim Bob could do and Stafford just kind of quit.    It really hit me watching a game where the announcer was pointing out how little the Lions did before the snap.......no deception.........very little motion and how the teams with better offenses were doing more and more of that.    Was it Jim Bob having his hands tied?      We've heard rumblings, unofficially, that Stafford has had to have playbooks dumbed-down and I am starting to believe that might be the issue.   Easy to look great when Calvin can go get it or Tate can take an 8 yard pass pattern and turn it into a 30 yard gain.   Stafford has a dynamite arm, but that's not enough.   

 

Or has he just finally been fully Lionized?  

 

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The Stafford that played injured down the stretch gave up? Lol I hate silly narratives. We aren't selling papers here boys. 

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Um, Stafford was missing two of his best receivers in the last quarter of the season, his best running back and they let go of their only receiving tight end in the offseason so those are the main factors in his regression down the stretch.  

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New Lions draft rumor is that they will trade back with the Falcons and pick up a 3rd plus a day three pick per Pride of Detroit.

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17 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

New Lions draft rumor is that they will trade back with the Falcons and pick up a 3rd plus a day three pick per Pride of Detroit.

deal.

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2 hours ago, Buddha said:

deal.

CBS Mock Draft

The latest CBS Sports mock was what POD was referencing. In this draft they have us trading back and still getting Montez Sweat. I'd be more than alright with this.

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3 hours ago, Buddha said:

deal.

**** no.  Not nearly enough.  I'd rather stand pat.  Either hit a home run, or trading back doesn't make sense.  Especially since they have plugged so many holes in free agency.

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38 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

CBS Mock Draft

The latest CBS Sports mock was what POD was referencing. In this draft they have us trading back and still getting Montez Sweat. I'd be more than alright with this.

That mock is laughable from pick one.

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1 hour ago, cruzer1 said:

**** no.  Not nearly enough.  I'd rather stand pat.  Either hit a home run, or trading back doesn't make sense.  Especially since they have plugged so many holes in free agency.

i bet if they traded back like that they would need to get a future #1 in the deal.

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I'm coming across more and more mocks with 3 QBs going before us. That would be a dream scenario and would almost guarantee somebody like Sweat or possibly even Allen dropping to us. 

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