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Dane Brugler from the Athletic did his 7 round mock:

Detroit Lions
1 8 EDGE Montez Sweat
2 43 CB Justin Layne
3 88 OG Michael Deiter
4 111 QB Tyree Jackson
5 146 TE Foster Moreau
6 184 WR Travis Fulgham
6 204 DS Saquan Hampton
7 224 DT Albert Huggins
7 229 LB Kaden Elliss

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55 minutes ago, kdog said:

Dane Brugler from the Athletic did his 7 round mock:

Detroit Lions
1 8 EDGE Montez Sweat
2 43 CB Justin Layne
3 88 OG Michael Deiter
4 111 QB Tyree Jackson
5 146 TE Foster Moreau
6 184 WR Travis Fulgham
6 204 DS Saquan Hampton
7 224 DT Albert Huggins
7 229 LB Kaden Elliss

I like everything but the Tyree Jakcson pick. I'd be all in on taking one of Murray or Haskins if they fell to us and I thought the organization was willing to move on, but they are not. I wouldn't spend anything higher than a 6th on a QB and Tyree Jackson wouldn't be my choice. The organization believes we are truly blessed to have Matt Stafford, so we might as well just keep building a team around him, offense and defense.

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If Sweat is gone when the Lions pick — and he could be — I would expect either Alabama OL Jonah Williams or Iowa TE T.J. Hockenson. As I tweeted earlier this week, everything I’ve been told indicates the team is not seriously interested in Florida State EDGE Brian Burns, not at No. 8 anyway.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/18/lions-full-mock-draft-1-week-to-go-edition/

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I'd rather it be Hockenson than yet another offensive lineman.  Atleast Hockenson could potentially be a playmaker/end zone threat.   Having a great offensive line is nice but it doesn't do you a whole lot of good when you don't have guys that can get open.  

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an OL starter is simply more valuable than a TE, tho I do admit if we take Hock I will probably just shut up and love him because he's such a fun player. 

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I think the board is probably like ; Sweat,White,Jonah. - Greedy and Oliver are both wildcards. Bottom line, nothing helps this team more than the guy Greedy is at or near his ceiling. Whether Matt and Bob think he can hit that ceiling will be the key of course. He's the one guy in that range we haven't visited too, and our first rounder hasn't visited. 

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Quinn had a comment I heard on the radio. Not that it means much, but he said that with what they have identified as needs and the way the board is shaping up, they will be drafting the best player available at 8. That sounds cliche, but I think what he’s trying to say is that they can address “needs” with good players in later rounds due to depth at the positions of need. 

I think they end up taking the TE. 

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9 minutes ago, Nastradamus said:

an OL starter is simply more valuable than a TE, tho I do admit if we take Hock I will probably just shut up and love him because he's such a fun player. 

In general I agree but I think the Lions need for a playmaker on offense is a far bigger need.  Last year Stafford was pressured on a league low 16% of his drop backs, so despite having time he still struggled and that was mainly due to the fact that we had nobody that could create separation.   While I'm not sold on Hockenson necessarily and I hope that they don't draft him atleast he has a chance to be a weapon on offense unlike another OL.  

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1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

In general I agree but I think the Lions need for a playmaker on offense is a far bigger need.  Last year Stafford was pressured on a league low 16% of his drop backs, so despite having time he still struggled and that was mainly due to the fact that we had nobody that could create separation.   While I'm not sold on Hockenson necessarily and I hope that they don't draft him atleast he has a chance to be a weapon on offense unlike another OL.  

I prefer DL help but I wouldn't squawk too much if Hockenson were the pick. TE has been a real sore spot on this team, it's another big hole to fill, and this guy's already being projected out as a likely Pro Bowler. Seems like a safe pick for a quality player – I don't think any of us would mind a Pro Bowl tight end playing for the Lions. If he's everything they say he is, we'd be set at that position for several years. And Stafford could use the help.

A stud edge rusher would be sweeeeet tho

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10 hours ago, Nastradamus said:

I think the board is probably like ; Sweat,White,Jonah. - Greedy and Oliver are both wildcards. Bottom line, nothing helps this team more than the guy Greedy is at or near his ceiling. Whether Matt and Bob think he can hit that ceiling will be the key of course. He's the one guy in that range we haven't visited too, and our first rounder hasn't visited. 

The Lions won't draft Greedy Williams. Not their profile.

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6 hours ago, Longgone said:

The Lions won't draft Greedy Williams. Not their profile.

I'll just say that I'm aware of this thought process on the subject. 

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5 hours ago, Nastradamus said:

I'll just say that I'm aware of this thought process on the subject. 

I don't think it'd be Sweat or White either. Ideally Allen falls, if not Jonah Williams, Oliver, Wilkens or maybe Hockenson fit their style.

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13 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

It would be a reach but I really like Marquise Brown.   

Lisfranc is tough to come back from.

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patricia and the lions preach versatility on defense.  are they really going to draft a one trick pony like sweat in round one?  i doubt it, unless they think they can mold him into a better all around defender.

otoh, it could be that they see sweat as such an amazing athlete that they cant pass on him.

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Patricia doesn’t choose the pick.

Rush end is an area where you can be a one trick pony.  If you can get double digit sacks then it doesn’t really matter how you hold the edge or play against the run.

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On 4/17/2019 at 10:32 PM, T&P_Fan said:

I like the Iowa TE.  

let's be honest, you'll like whomever the lions pick.  :)

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9 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Patricia doesn’t choose the pick.

Rush end is an area where you can be a one trick pony.  If you can get double digit sacks then it doesn’t really matter how you hold the edge or play against the run.

im sure patricia has input in the pick.

its been my understanding that the pats like to contain the qb in the pocket, stay disciplined, set the edge, and be a versatile player who can play 3-4 or 4-3.  i dont remember them having a straight guy in the 4-3 who just rushes the passer like a von miller type.  now, that could be because they havent been able to draft high enough to get one so who knows?

but ive always thought they value versatility more than pure speed rush.  but like i said, maybe they think sweat is such an amazing athlete they can teach him to do the right stuff?

also, swest has a heart condition.  that could knock him out of contention at 8.

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97.1 had a show tonight at 3:00 a.m. where experts from each city make the pick, and show where the team is leaning:

1. Arizona: Quinnen Williams, DT

2. SF: Nick Bosa, DE

3. NYJ: Josh Allen, OLB

4. Oakland/LV: Ed Oliver, DT

5. TB: Devin White, LB

6. NYG: Rashan Gary, DE

7. Jacks: Jawan Taylor, G

8. Lions: T.J. Hocksenson TE

No way this will happen, because of trades, but there is a shot that the Cardinals do not stick to the script.

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Interesting.  I can’t see a scenario where there isn’t a QB picked in the top 7.   If so, the Lions will either trade out or pick Murray or Haskins.  

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18 hours ago, Buddha said:

patricia and the lions preach versatility on defense.  are they really going to draft a one trick pony like sweat in round one?  i doubt it, unless they think they can mold him into a better all around defender.

That's why I've been hoping White would still be there at 8. 

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If the scenario Cruzer posted from 97.1 played itself out (and it won't) I would be disappointed if Kyler Murray wasn't our pick. I wouldn't have a problem if the organization had a multi-year plan to draft Murray and sit him this year and then trade Stafford next off-season when the cap hit lessens. I'd be willing to give Quinn the time and job security necessary to try that.

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22 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If the scenario Cruzer posted from 97.1 played itself out (and it won't) I would be disappointed if Kyler Murray wasn't our pick. I wouldn't have a problem if the organization had a multi-year plan to draft Murray and sit him this year and then trade Stafford next off-season when the cap hit lessens. I'd be willing to give Quinn the time and job security necessary to try that.

well...get ready to be disappointed.

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