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Directions and Objectives For A Future Mainstream Party

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25 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

it's a cult; a significant percentage of Americans (30%?) are members of a cult

 

she will be exposing herself to prison.

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I'm going to hijack this thread for a post about the future of the other party. Long piece in Politico about Biden starting right out of the gate trying to support the Democratic party out in the field and build out an organization to protect congressional seats in 2022. On of the more interesting points is the 180 deg difference from Obama. One of the more interesting points made is that when Obama was elected, the party apparatus was still so Clintonite that Obama tried to build his own organization outside it. That of course turned out to be a disaster for the Dems institutionally. This party is all Biden's right now so he doesn't have that problem.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/12/joe-biden-plan-midterms-shellacking-458316

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I'm hijacking it back.  Until we stop Russian games in our elections...

 

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44 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

I laughed

 

That's pretty funny.  Radio smartalecks got a lot of mileage out of that, offering weekend hunting trips with Dick Cheney as prizes for people who phoned in.

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Who had Dick and Liz Cheney as saviors of Democracy in 2021?

 

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Just an aside, what would it take to turn folks like Hawley, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Beobert and such the face of the current GOP. Much like they push AOC, Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omaras the faces of the Democrats 

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Late, but [insert]

Option 1.  Necessary

Option 2.  Feckless

 

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Remember when Papi posted here if someone were to post an article in The Atlantic he'd sneer at it like it was disreputable in and of itself.   There are no gate-keepers just the movement to people like that. 

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Objective 1.  Expel anyone who was involved with insurrection and let them play in the "Patriot Party"

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3 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

Objective 1.  Expel anyone who was involved with insurrection and let them play in the "Patriot Party"

If Trump starts a party it really will be interesting to see how much of the GOP he takes with him. On the plus side of the ledger, the old guard will get their old GOP back without a fight. On the other could they could end up as the 3rd party rather than the 2nd. :shocked:

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On 1/15/2021 at 8:35 AM, ROMAD1 said:

Qanon...explain how that bizonkers crap became a religion when its some weird dude in the Philippines **** posting nonsense just to shake things up?

Internet Research Agency.

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2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Internet Research Agency.

Aka, the GRU

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On 1/15/2021 at 8:57 AM, Oblong said:

yeah but at the end of the day all that matters is how they vote in a congressional district.  If enough kooks get someone through the primary then most others will just vote for them because of the (R).  Alabama's not a stupid state.  The freaking rockets are built there.  Yet there's Tuberville because he was the republican.

 

Not to be argumentative here, but can't hundreds of stupid individuals be trained to put one widget A into hull B independently of one another, and then have their work checked and flagged if in error by computerized QA? Do they need to be rocket scientists to be on the factory floor building rockets?

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9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Not to be argumentative here, but can't hundreds of stupid individuals be trained to put one widget A into hull B independently of one another, and then have their work checked and flagged if in error by computerized QA? Do they need to be rocket scientists to be on the factory floor building rockets?

It's worse than that. There are a lot of  engineering types that are much better educated than putting widget A into slot B and still end up hard core conservatives. Some just because they find their sympathies with management and profit and the rest of the agenda follows from there, but also others because able but mechanistic thinkers are not necessarily immune from unanchored political thinking. The problem with fringe thinking is not in the logic, it's in the premises, and a lot of nerdy types never spend enough time broadening their understanding of the world to be resistant to logical sounding but otherwise worthless premises.

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5 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

It's worse than that. There are a lot of  engineering types that are much better educated than putting widget A into slot B and still end up hard core conservatives. Some just because they find their sympathies with management and profit and the rest of the agenda follows from there, but also others because able but mechanistic thinkers are not necessarily immune from unanchored political thinking. The problem with fringe thinking is not in the logic, it's in the premises, and a lot of nerdy types never spend enough time broadening their understanding of the world to be resistant to logical sounding but otherwise worthless premises.

Good one.

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BTW,

Imagine a GOP president saying this just 4 years ago

 

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I'm glad Lincoln Project didn't fold after they helped get Job #1 done.

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I was a GOP delegate years ago. I am still on the mailing lists. It’s sad and absurd what happened to the party at the local level.   You wouldn’t believe it if I told you.  With the serious republicans leaving it just opens the door for the kooks to move upstairs. Ronna McDaniel is not an accident.   

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