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1 minute ago, ROMAD1 said:

Easy enough to say.  Wyoming is not the same as WV.

you've held this pipe dream for a long time about the good ol days of the "responsible" gop.  what has happened since then?  

a whole ten out of 210 voted to impeach a guy whose supporters stormed the capitol and tried to kill them.

ten.

not sure why you still have this idea that the sensible gop is just around the corner.

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6 minutes ago, Buddha said:

you've held this pipe dream for a long time about the good ol days of the "responsible" gop.  what has happened since then?  

a whole ten out of 210 voted to impeach a guy whose supporters stormed the capitol and tried to kill them.

ten.

not sure why you still have this idea that the sensible gop is just around the corner.

You've been happy to share a negative vision of nazis stomping on the face of responsible people.  I know the pressure the GOP face.  The Russian government is funding a campaign of intimidation against them.  That's not some hyperbole.  That is reality.   I celebrate those who do brave things.  10 stood. I celebrate them.

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9 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

You've been happy to share a negative vision of nazis stomping on the face of responsible people.  I know the pressure the GOP face.  The Russian government is funding a campaign of intimidation against them.  That's not some hyperbole.  That is reality.   I celebrate those who do brave things.  10 stood. I celebrate them.

you can celebrate while also realizing what is happening to the gop.

the russians have not caused this, the american people voting for republicans have causes this.  trump is who the americans want.

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4 minutes ago, Buddha said:

you can celebrate while also realizing what is happening to the gop.

the russians have not caused this, the american people voting for republicans have causes this.  trump is who the americans want.

"americans" didn't give him a majority in either election. 

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Qanon...explain how that bizonkers crap became a religion when its some weird dude in the Philippines **** posting nonsense just to shake things up?

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yeah but at the end of the day all that matters is how they vote in a congressional district.  If enough kooks get someone through the primary then most others will just vote for them because of the (R).  Alabama's not a stupid state.  The freaking rockets are built there.  Yet there's Tuberville because he was the republican.

 

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I realize I keep harping on the Old Dominion, but looking at the clowns running for the GOP nomination for Governor here, it’s going to be a long summer 

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30 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

"americans" didn't give him a majority in either election. 

"americans" meaning the americans who vote in the republican primary elections.  that's who returns these people to power over and over again all across the country.

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30 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

Qanon...explain how that bizonkers crap became a religion when its some weird dude in the Philippines **** posting nonsense just to shake things up?

because people believe it!  republicans believe it!

blaming all of this crap on "the russians" is to fail to take responsibility for the crazy people who apparently make up a majority of republican primary voters in a large number of states.

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Mediocre GOP reps who talk crazy won’t help the GOP return to being a national governing party.  which as of the insanity that went before the Georgia election they are not.

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there's plenty of crazy in the democratic party too, but those people have not hijacked the party and are just a lunatic fringe that gets elected in a very small number of races.

i mean, i cant stand ilhan omar but she's not crazy.  rashida talib might be wrong about everything but she's not nuts.

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Lou Dobbs is saying that Obamagate is finally going to be declassified soon.  Republicans believe him.  

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6 minutes ago, Buddha said:

there's plenty of crazy in the democratic party too, but those people have not hijacked the party and are just a lunatic fringe that gets elected in a very small number of races.

i mean, i cant stand ilhan omar but she's not crazy.  rashida talib might be wrong about everything but she's not nuts.

Hence the need to win the Liz Cheney battle.  if Gym Jordan wins...then the Gop will be reduced to the fringe for a while 

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4 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

Hence the need to win the Liz Cheney battle.  if Gym Jordan wins...then the Gop will be reduced to the fringe for a while 

i am rooting for lynn cheney, i just dont think she's going to win.  and i doubt she wins re-election although i would prefer her to a right wing trump nut alternative.

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the problem for America is how do you bring people who are now thoroughly conditioned to an alternate reality back from wherever it is that they are? Until you do argument from the other side is pointless, you can't reason with people if there is no agreement about basic reality. There certainly is no single answer to this but the sane people better start recognizing that this is the real threat. And if the sane don't figure it out and move effectively soon they will be in the minority and they will have lost the agency to act  -  all will be lost.

The answer isn't politics, or at least only a part of it is. In America today we have the confluence of both a huge corrupt religious axis, and a huge corrupt media axis, both sheltering under the protection of the 1st amendment, making any solution damned hard to find.

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17 minutes ago, Buddha said:

there's plenty of crazy in the democratic party too, but those people have not hijacked the party and are just a lunatic fringe that gets elected in a very small number of races.

i mean, i cant stand ilhan omar but she's not crazy.  rashida talib might be wrong about everything but she's not nuts.

The only people who talk about them are Fox.  They act like they are the face of the dems. 

When you see Kevin McCarthy smack around Gym Jordan or those new Q idiots then we'll know the GOP is serious about a cleanse.  Right now they are not.

 

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this needs to be said over and over. we will have to see what happens to GOP people who speak the truth.

 

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With the usual caveats about polls and non-response bias, don't look now, but it appears that Donald Trump's standing is seeing significant erosion.

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5 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

With the usual caveats about polls and non-response bias, don't look now, but it appears that Donald Trump's standing is seeing significant erosion.

Unfulfilled prophecy is one way that people do fall out of the sway of charlatans. Hopefully Trumpism's practical failures will be enough that some will re-evaluate what they believe. It may be enough to help keep the GOP out of power nationally, but I do not think it will be enough to break the hold of craziness in much of the old South. They are too conditioned to being keepers of lost causes. Failure at the national level is almost validating to them.

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23 minutes ago, Buddha said:

i am rooting for lynn cheney, i just dont think she's going to win.  and i doubt she wins re-election although i would prefer her to a right wing trump nut alternative.

Lynn isn't running.

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24 minutes ago, Buddha said:

i am rooting for lynn cheney, i just dont think she's going to win.  and i doubt she wins re-election although i would prefer her to a right wing trump nut alternative.

Wy is definitely a place to watch. I am more optimistic in general about the mountain West as compared to the old dominion South, but not that much.

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Probably more a reflection of political reality in Georgia than anything else, but still interesting 

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Lankford is getting dragged for this, but I have no problem believing that what he said was true, which is pretty damning on its own

 

 

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