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44 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

What I want to know now is who needs to be added to the Tigers roster in order to be protected in the draft.  Edman? Microline?

Protect all of the shortstops.

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1 hour ago, Casimir said:

Protect all of the shortstops.

We would need a 100 man roster to do that since thats all that dummy Avila acquires. 

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1 hour ago, gzbach said:

Just checked back at this site, and the Tigers have just promoted 18 guys (plus 1 yesterday for 19, and more to come) from various levels to the Toledo roster, thus protecting them from the minor-league portion of the Rule V draft.  This gives an interesting glimpse into who they value at the lower levels, from where they could be lost in the draft for virtually nothing.  By being put on the Toledo roster, if they were drafted they would then have to be kept on the MLB 25-man roster all year.  Since none of these guys are ready for that, they're safe.  At least half of them will be sent back to their appropriate levels after the draft.  Tigers still have to decide who to totally protect by a promotion to the 40-man.  Stay tuned.

Plus they signed a AA catcher.

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26 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Thanks.  Anybody want to guess which of those guys they will add to the 40 man?

Long and Perez?

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1 hour ago, tiger337 said:

Thanks.  Anybody want to guess which of those guys they will add to the 40 man?

First gotta start with who is eligible for the Rule 5... then we can guess who's worth saving...

Back to Edman or Micro...?

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56 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

First gotta start with who is eligible for the Rule 5... then we can guess who's worth saving...

Back to Edman or Micro...?

The link above shows you which players are eligible.  I tried to cut and paste the list but it wouldn't work.  

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I guess I am surprised that Rogers wouldn't have been moved up to Toledo, but I don't understand all of the ins and outs of the minor league part of the rule 5.  My guess is the same eligibility requirements apply, but guys currently below AAA don't have to be stashed on the MLB roster as part of the MILB rule 5?

Brock Deatherage deserves his own special font on that document.

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8 minutes ago, Casimir said:

I guess I am surprised that Rogers wouldn't have been moved up to Toledo, but I don't understand all of the ins and outs of the minor league part of the rule 5.  My guess is the same eligibility requirements apply, but guys currently below AAA don't have to be stashed on the MLB roster as part of the MILB rule 5?

Brock Deatherage deserves his own special font on that document.

Rogers is not eligible to be drafted so he doesn't have to be protected yet, and you're right...the same eligibility requirements apply (notice that all the guys moved to Toledo are listed on the Rule V-eligible list), but no restrictions (that I'm aware of) apply to what is done with a MILB draftee after he's drafted.  Plus the cost is dirt-cheap...50K last time I looked.

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On 11/6/2018 at 6:06 PM, irvink said:

If you are really looking for optimism... FG - the only major list that has been fully updated at end of minor league season - has Daz ranked 41 and Paredes ranked 42 on their top 100 + list.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board

Hmm!  Well that is good news.  Parades certainly hit **very** well in 2018, esp. for a 19 year old IF, and I really like Daz.

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12 hours ago, Longgone said:

Long and Perez?

Perez will be protected no matter what. I mean he was the key piece in the verlander deal. 

Long seems reasonable. Acozar might be another one. 

Derek Hill will be interesting. He hasn't hit. But do the Tigers risk him, thinking some team might be able to use him as a speed/defensive guy off the bench for a year then send him back down to the minor Reyes style. 

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1 minute ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Perez will be protected no matter what. I mean he was the key piece in the verlander deal. 

Long seems reasonable. Acozar might be another one. 

Derek Hill will be interesting. He hasn't hit. But do the Tigers risk him, thinking some team might be able to use him as a speed/defensive guy off the bench for a year then send him back down to the minor Reyes style. 

Hill will be an interesting call. They will just need to decide whether they think he has a chance to become a major leaguer or not. They will have to rely on their scouting and make a call. That’s kind of a cop out, I know. But you only have so many spots. 

The question can’t be how close to the majors he is. 

I think you have to protect him, fwiw. But I haven’t looked at the rest of the list or who we currently have on the 40 man. 

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The list of 38 eligible players is below (left-hand side)

EDIT: The second to the last column on the RIGHT starting with Alexander and ending with Martinez is the correct list.  Thanks gzbach. 

PLAYERS ELIGIBLE FOR RULE 5 DRAFT               PLAYERS SIGNED TO 2019 CONTRACTS                          
 
      38                                            
 
    DATE PLAYER FROM TO
Organization Count:
      P Tyler Alexander               P Jesus Cruz                          
 
    11/7/2018 Jose Azocar Lakeland   Toledo   291     P Johan Belisario               P Jose Peraza                          
 
    11/7/2018 Johan Belisario West Michigan   Toledo         P Christian Binford               P Juan Polanco                          
 
    11/7/2018 Anthony Castro Lakeland   Toledo         P Liarvis Breto               P Rolando Sirit                          
 
    11/7/2018 Isrrael De La Cruz Connecticut   Toledo         P Oswaldo Castillo               C Cristian Calzadilla                          
 
    11/7/2018 Dominic Ficociello Erie   Toledo         P Anthony Castro               INF Yoan Bravo                          
 
    11/7/2018 Cam Gibson Erie   Toledo         P Tom De Blok               INF Rafael Castillo                          
 
    11/7/2018 Derek Hill Lakeland   Toledo         P Daniel Gonzalez               INF Angel Cruz                          
 
    11/7/2018 A.J. Ladwig Erie   Toledo         P Eudis Idrogo               INF Geury Estevez                          
 
    11/7/2018 Josh Lester Erie   Toledo         P A.J. Ladwig               INF Adinso Reyes                          
 
    11/7/2018 Will Maddox Erie   Toledo         P Grayson Long               INF Alexis Ulloa                          
 
    11/7/2018 Anthony Pereira West Michigan   Toledo         P Ronaldo Lopez               OF Jose De La Cruz                          
 
    11/7/2018 Elvin Rodriguez West Michigan   Toledo         P Gerson Moreno                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Jesus Rodriguez West Michigan   Toledo         P Fernando Perez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Zac Shepherd Lakeland   Toledo         P Franklin Perez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 A.J. Simcox Lakeland   Toledo         P Elvin Rodriguez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Trent Szkutnik Erie   Toledo         P Hector Rodriguez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Spenser Watkins Erie   Toledo         P Jesus Rodriguez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Tom de Blok West Michigan   Toledo         P Andrew Schwaab                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Fernando Perez Lakeland   Erie         P Trent Szkutnik                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Chace Numata Free Agent   Erie         P Caleb Thielbar                                            
 
    11/5/2018 Caleb Thielbar Erie   Toledo         P Javier Villarroel                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Brandon Dixon Waivers (Cincinnati)   Detroit         P Paul Voelker                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Jose Fernandez Waivers (Toronto)   Detroit         P Spenser Watkins                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Phillippe Aumont Toledo   Free Agent         C Jheyser Azuaje                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Johnny Barbato Toledo   Free Agent         C Elys Escobar                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Hunter Cervenka Toledo   Free Agent         C Chace Numata                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kevin Chapman Toledo   Free Agent         C Andres Sthormes                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kevin Comer Toledo   Free Agent         INF Moises Bello                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Chad Huffman Toledo   Free Agent         INF Harold Castro                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Jason Krizan Toledo   Free Agent         INF Isrrael De La Cruz                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Warwick Saupold Toledo   Free Agent         INF Dominic Ficociello                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kade Scivicque Toledo   Free Agent         INF Pete Kozma                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Pete Kozma Free Agent   Toledo         INF Josh Lester                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kody Eaves Erie   Free Agent         INF Will Maddox                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Edwin Espinal Erie   Free Agent         INF Hector Martinez                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Herlis Rodriguez Erie   Free Agent         INF Anthony Pereira                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kurt Spomer Erie   Free Agent         INF Jose Salas                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Josh Thole Erie   Free Agent         INF Zac Shepherd                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Alfred Gutierrez Lakeland   Free Agent         INF A.J. Simcox                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Endrys Briceno West Michigan   Free Agent         OF Jose Azocar                                              
 
    11/2/2018 Doug Domnarski GCL Tigers East   Free Agent         OF Cam Gibson                                              
 
    11/2/2018 Jhonny Mateo GCL Tigers East   Free Agent         OF Derek Hill                                              
 
    11/2/2018 Arvicent Perez GCL Tigers East   Free Agent         OF Julio Martinez                                                
 
    11/2/2018 Jose Fuentes GCL Tigers West   Free Agent          

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19 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

The list of 38 eligible players is below (left-hand side)

PLAYERS ELIGIBLE FOR RULE 5 DRAFT               PLAYERS SIGNED TO 2019 CONTRACTS                          
 
      38                                            
 
    DATE PLAYER FROM TO
Organization Count:
      P Tyler Alexander               P Jesus Cruz                          
 
    11/7/2018 Jose Azocar Lakeland   Toledo   291     P Johan Belisario               P Jose Peraza                          
 
    11/7/2018 Johan Belisario West Michigan   Toledo         P Christian Binford               P Juan Polanco                          
 
    11/7/2018 Anthony Castro Lakeland   Toledo         P Liarvis Breto               P Rolando Sirit                          
 
    11/7/2018 Isrrael De La Cruz Connecticut   Toledo         P Oswaldo Castillo               C Cristian Calzadilla                          
 
    11/7/2018 Dominic Ficociello Erie   Toledo         P Anthony Castro               INF Yoan Bravo                          
 
    11/7/2018 Cam Gibson Erie   Toledo         P Tom De Blok               INF Rafael Castillo                          
 
    11/7/2018 Derek Hill Lakeland   Toledo         P Daniel Gonzalez               INF Angel Cruz                          
 
    11/7/2018 A.J. Ladwig Erie   Toledo         P Eudis Idrogo               INF Geury Estevez                          
 
    11/7/2018 Josh Lester Erie   Toledo         P A.J. Ladwig               INF Adinso Reyes                          
 
    11/7/2018 Will Maddox Erie   Toledo         P Grayson Long               INF Alexis Ulloa                          
 
    11/7/2018 Anthony Pereira West Michigan   Toledo         P Ronaldo Lopez               OF Jose De La Cruz                          
 
    11/7/2018 Elvin Rodriguez West Michigan   Toledo         P Gerson Moreno                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Jesus Rodriguez West Michigan   Toledo         P Fernando Perez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Zac Shepherd Lakeland   Toledo         P Franklin Perez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 A.J. Simcox Lakeland   Toledo         P Elvin Rodriguez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Trent Szkutnik Erie   Toledo         P Hector Rodriguez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Spenser Watkins Erie   Toledo         P Jesus Rodriguez                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Tom de Blok West Michigan   Toledo         P Andrew Schwaab                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Fernando Perez Lakeland   Erie         P Trent Szkutnik                                            
 
    11/7/2018 Chace Numata Free Agent   Erie         P Caleb Thielbar                                            
 
    11/5/2018 Caleb Thielbar Erie   Toledo         P Javier Villarroel                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Brandon Dixon Waivers (Cincinnati)   Detroit         P Paul Voelker                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Jose Fernandez Waivers (Toronto)   Detroit         P Spenser Watkins                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Phillippe Aumont Toledo   Free Agent         C Jheyser Azuaje                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Johnny Barbato Toledo   Free Agent         C Elys Escobar                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Hunter Cervenka Toledo   Free Agent         C Chace Numata                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kevin Chapman Toledo   Free Agent         C Andres Sthormes                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kevin Comer Toledo   Free Agent         INF Moises Bello                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Chad Huffman Toledo   Free Agent         INF Harold Castro                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Jason Krizan Toledo   Free Agent         INF Isrrael De La Cruz                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Warwick Saupold Toledo   Free Agent         INF Dominic Ficociello                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kade Scivicque Toledo   Free Agent         INF Pete Kozma                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Pete Kozma Free Agent   Toledo         INF Josh Lester                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kody Eaves Erie   Free Agent         INF Will Maddox                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Edwin Espinal Erie   Free Agent         INF Hector Martinez                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Herlis Rodriguez Erie   Free Agent         INF Anthony Pereira                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Kurt Spomer Erie   Free Agent         INF Jose Salas                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Josh Thole Erie   Free Agent         INF Zac Shepherd                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Alfred Gutierrez Lakeland   Free Agent         INF A.J. Simcox                                            
 
    11/2/2018 Endrys Briceno West Michigan   Free Agent         OF Jose Azocar                                              
 
    11/2/2018 Doug Domnarski GCL Tigers East   Free Agent         OF Cam Gibson                                              
 
    11/2/2018 Jhonny Mateo GCL Tigers East   Free Agent         OF Derek Hill                                              
 
    11/2/2018 Arvicent Perez GCL Tigers East   Free Agent         OF Julio Martinez                                                
 
    11/2/2018 Jose Fuentes GCL Tigers West